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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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marton96
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Haha did not happen

Zep0Q
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Why couldn't God just make the Universe and then we call that the big bang >.<


Kirby998, I see you're a Christian, and I also see that you didn't opened the Bible,

Genesis 1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

What you're saying is that after God created all that is created He would say that He didn't do it and a stupid explosion created by nothing, created all that is created.
communist09
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Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!


So your logic is, if that something is utterly unexplainable, or can't be made by humans, then God must have made it? That shows that religion has truly no evidence, it's just a matter of faith.
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Why don't I believe in god?


http://www.whale.to/b/images/capitalism.gif


( I really hope that worked )

Krizaz
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Yeah, I saw that in a book that had talked about all the major events since 1900-2000. And it's true.

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Dear Green12324, the DNA is the most complex structure that human race has ever seen, evolution doesn't wants to make a being more complex and intelligent, evolution would make a being more good at making babys.


Evolution also helps a species adapt to its environment. Which would include more than just allowing it to make babies easier.
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That is one the greatest pictures ever VoteSocialist. You have to tell me the link for it.

BigP08
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This may sound agnostic but if there is one almighty big motherf*cker named god then i dont care i can kick his as* any day

You've been beat around enough by this quote, but I'd just like to ask why you said it. I know it's a joke but... I don't really get it.
Kirby998, I see you're a Christian, and I also see that you didn't opened the Bible,

First of all, the Big Bang is a theory accepted by many Christians as well. God may have CREATED the Big Bang and used it to create the heavens and the earth. So you don't know whether Kirby's read the Bible or not.
And don't insult Kirby, he actually makes some of the better arguments in favor of religion.
If I would tell you that a magician flew through the air, you would not believe me, but if I would tell you that the magician flew through the air very slow, see how stupid this is?

What are you talking about? If the magician flew through the air very slowly, we would have a better chance of seeing him off the ground, because there is a definite MIDDLE to the act of flying. Before the takeoff and after the landing are events that cannot prove that the magician flew, but if the MIDDLE event, the flying, was seen, then we'd have proof.
Evolution, however, is more complicated. No matter what stage you are at, that is the norm of the species you are observing. You see, I could be developing webbed toes, but BEFORE I have them, someone would say I can't be getting them. While I'm getting them, someone would say that the state of my toes has always been that way and always will be. AFTER I have the webbed toes, then someone would say I've always had webbed toes. By the way, this example goes under the assumption that these are seperate people.
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BigP08 There really was no reason i just wanted to se what reaction i would get out of it :P

Zep0Q
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Evolution also helps a species adapt to its environment. Which would include more than just allowing it to make babies easier.


You're kink of wrong, that's another kind of evolution, it's called microevolution, I do believe in it because it's happening, but I don't believe in macroevolution, this kind of evolution makes from a dog a rat and from a rat a bug, that's what I don't believe in it, because we never saw it happening, microevolution changes a bing to become better in the environment, but it still remains same kind of being.

By the way, you can't call something scientific, untill you can test it, repeat it, observe it.
Bigbang is just a theory, nothing more.
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BigP08 There really was no reason i just wanted to se what reaction i would get out of it :P

Oh, okay. I was wondering about that, because you seemed to respect religions in another thread. It was an interesting experiment.
marton96
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No one saw god make the universe either :P

Zep0Q
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What are you talking about? If the magician flew through the air very slowly, we would have a better chance of seeing him off the ground, because there is a definite MIDDLE to the act of flying. Before the takeoff and after the landing are events that cannot prove that the magician flew, but if the MIDDLE event, the flying, was seen, then we'd have proof.
Evolution, however, is more complicated. No matter what stage you are at, that is the norm of the species you are observing. You see, I could be developing webbed toes, but BEFORE I have them, someone would say I can't be getting them. While I'm getting them, someone would say that the state of my toes has always been that way and always will be. AFTER I have the webbed toes, then someone would say I've always had webbed toes. By the way, this example goes under the assumption that these are seperate people.



BigP08, I wasn't talking with you or with another Christian, I was talking with an atheist, instead of criticizing, you should to some research about the age of the earth and you should pray more, because you need it.
Ask God to show you what to do.

Christians that believe that the big bang made this world are just very dumb, God made this world, He didn't used some events, He used His holy power, that's all.
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I am atheist and Still atheist after reading what you wrote. I believe that everything can be explained through science. Religious individuals believe that most things can be explained through someone they call god(s). I believe that "the big man up above" or "god being everything at once" is merely to serve social or physcological needs.

I will continue this belief until death where it will be truely proven if god(s) exist.

Zep0Q
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No one saw god make the universe either :P


marton96, maybe you didn't understand what I said,I said scientific, God's power can't be explained, stop useing your little brain, unless you do some research about your claims.
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