ForumsWEPR[necro] Why you don't believe in God?

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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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Zootsuit_riot
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God's power can't be explained,


Convenient, isn't it?
Zep0Q
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No one saw god make the universe either :P

By the way, God told the saints what to wrote in Genesis, and God can't lie.
Everything that God said is true, and happened, and will happen.
Like this prophecy:

Revelation 13:16-17
He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

It refers to that chip.
TSL3_needed
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This shows the ignorance of religion and the arrogance of atheism quite well. . . .

I believe god exists, but merely as a guide for when we stray off the path. He doesn't do anything actively at all. He didn't create the earth. Also, that picture in the OP shows absolutely no physical structures in the ankle of leg. Phail.

And Zep, please, use proper tense. And stop using double negatives. They're making you look like a tool.

BigP08
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BigP08, I wasn't talking with you or with another Christian, I was talking with an atheist, instead of criticizing, you should to some research about the age of the earth and you should pray more, because you need it.
Ask God to show you what to do.

I don't need to be judged by you, especially since you don't show the slightest bit of respect towards other beliefs. Just because you were talking with an atheist doesn't mean I can't point out a few things. You haven't refuted what I wrote in any way, only told me that I should pray more. Please clarify what you mean about the age of the earth.

I never said I believed the Big Bang to be true, I simply acknolwedge that it is plausible.
Christians that believe that the big bang made this world are just very dumb, God made this world, He didn't used some events, He used His holy power, that's all.

Why couldn't he have used events? What would the difference be?

Zep0Q, you attitude about religion is most likely going to make you look silly and stupid. I would prefer that you treat me like an athiest, in that you would actually give me a discussion, not tips about my religion.
Zep0Q
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TSL3_needed, who cares? we Christians already won, I'm just trying to make people to come on the winners side.

Zep0Q
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BigP08, look, I'm not your enemy, If wish I could say that I'm the good guy, but I'm not good, only God is good, I just try to fight for the good.

Psalm 14:1
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.

God bless you BigP08!

TSL3_needed
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TSL3_needed, who cares? we Christians already won, I'm just trying to make people to come on the winners side.


Zep, shut it. You're wrong, you haven't won. You'll never win. You're exactly the reason I hate religion >>.<<

Ignorance and lack of open mindedness are rivaling mine. No, they far exceeded it. Try working on that.

Oh wait, something's vibrating. Oh, it's my Troller Counter. Seems it's off the chart.
Zootsuit_riot
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Oh wait, something's vibrating. Oh, it's my Troller Counter. Seems it's off the chart.


Very convincing troll, if real. I was going to argue and refute all of his semi-arguments, but then I saw that his trump card is "God cannot be explained," blah blah blah, "You can't actually disprove God," etc.
Zep0Q
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Zep, shut it. You're wrong, you haven't won. You'll never win. You're exactly the reason I hate religion >>.<<


TSL3_needed, you can hate religion, but you should not hate God.

God bless you TSL3_needed! but I'm sure He already did.
VoteSocialist
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Zep, your religion has been slowly choking since the first French revolution.

BigP08
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BigP08, look, I'm not your enemy

I'm just saying, you need to respect other beliefs more. Christianity is bound to endure discrimination and Christians are bound to be thought of as close-minded and ignorant. I wanted to have a real intellectual discussion, not a lecture about my faith. That's why I go to my youth group. :P
In case you haven't noticed, you aren't exactly helping to make religion look appealing. As TSL3 said:
Zep, shut it. You're wrong, you haven't won. You'll never win. You're exactly the reason I hate religion

Open-mindedness and understanding are ways to get people who don't believe in God to listen to you. Standing in stubborness and unwillingness to debate are not. For the first time in a long time, I am starting to see why religion can be so annoying.
Zep0Q
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I think it's time for all of us to defend what they believe, and not to try to discredit others if they have the same believes as you.

I'm sorry for any inconveniences that I created.
God bless you all!

Zootsuit_riot
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For the first time in a long time, I am starting to see why religion can be so annoying.


I love you
Zep0Q
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Zep, your religion has been slowly choking since the first French revolution.


VoteSocialist, I like to cook, do you?
Skarrface
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2 be honest, i don't believe in nothin at all. But don't go religion crazy on me just because i don't. At least i don't try to force ppl to believe stuff like some religions have done

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