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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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MageGrayWolf
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How long did it take you to gather all those links?

AnaLoGMunKy
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What GOD are you talking about? Mine or yours? You dont make a clear point. Is there a faction you have in mind. Christian? and if so which cult are you part of or refering to. ???

There is no "GOD"

Doesnt mean we wernt created... but noone knows so its a moot point.

Maybe the human race should stop killin and start luvvin

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Maybe the human race should stop killin and start luvvin


I love YOU For your opinions of course =P
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Kay, my bad on all that biology stuff I don't really know much about. (And no, I didn't get anything from creationist websites. I actually looked up stuff on biology sites and formed my own opinions.) I had a hell of a bad day and didn't even think before I posted. That being said I hate the internet a whole lot right about now. I need to stay away from computers for awhile.

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I love YOU For your opinions of course =P[/quote]

Cheers.. spread the luv...

deserteagle
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Kay, my bad on all that biology stuff I don't really know much about. (And no, I didn't get anything from creationist websites. I actually looked up stuff on biology sites and formed my own opinions.) I had a hell of a bad day and didn't even think before I posted. That being said I hate the internet a whole lot right about now. I need to stay away from computers for awhile.


don't be a debate quitter just because firefly pulled a debate tactical nuke on you. If you have any dignity you will either fight until you run out if reasons, or two, accept that firefly beat you.
FireflyIV
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How long did it take you to gather all those links?


It didn't take me too long to fnd those individual articles. It did however take me one hell of a long time to convert them all to bb code.

Kay, my bad on all that biology stuff I don't really know much about. (And no, I didn't get anything from creationist websites. I actually looked up stuff on biology sites and formed my own opinions.)


It's cool. Many in the evolution camp actually have little to no idea on the actual processes involved. I think that's symptomatic of the human psyche though, to polarise into two groups and shout down the other side, regardless of how ignorant they are themselves.
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Look at all the crap thats been going on in the world the past oh i don't know,80 yearsI MEAN WW2,KOREA,VIET NAM,GREANADEA,SOMAILA,THE FIRST GULF WAR AND THE IRAQ WAR,+ALL THE CRAP WITH THE ARABS FIGHTING THE JEWS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.bty i have no religion.

MageGrayWolf
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It didn't take me too long to fnd those individual articles. It did however take me one hell of a long time to convert them all to bb code.


Impressive work. I will have to read through them see if I can learn anything. Looks like it gives some good tips on how to debate the subject as well.
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Many in the evolution camp actually have little to no idea on the actual processes involved. I think that's symptomatic of the human psyche though, to polarise into two groups and shout down the other side, regardless of how ignorant they are themselves.


Sadly, but oh so true
Exactly why I almost flamed out about the comment on 'The Second law of ThermoDynamics' included in the first post of this thread.

Seriously, if you don't know anything about it, shut up, you won't do yourself any good, and even worse for 'your side' of the debate.
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Impressive work. I will have to read through them see if I can learn anything. Looks like it gives some good tips on how to debate the subject as well.


The sad thing is, a subject like this shouldn't really be up for debate given the amount of evidence. You might as well debate the existence of gravity.

Seriously, if you don't know anything about it, shut up, you won't do yourself any good, and even worse for 'your side' of the debate.


I'm not sure that's quite the right attitude. Debates are valuable learning tools. Just because you are ignorant of a subject doesn't mean you aren't entitled to an opinion. Just don't portray your opinion as fact. That's when it's crossing the line.
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Firefly, I knew you would show that link list again :P


I remember you posting it in an argument before . . . .

I agree that it's annoying when someone hasn't done research on their own side of a debate. It just gives the other side that much more of a gaping debate hole to exploit.

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i don't believe in god because of personal and scientific evidence.

also, ask yourself this question: could god create a rock he could not move? think about it. we are plagued by worse and worse natural disasters, and an inevitable doom of overpopulation.

FireflyIV
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Firefly, I knew you would show that link list again :P


Yeah. I said so at the top, that I'd used it before. But it seems there are still those who need to be educated. I'm actually compiling a list from other sources too, although it'll take me a while to convert them to bb.
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on a late note...

firefly: how can you say that portraying opinion as fact is crossing the line? that's complete bull. stating your opinion as a fact is Debate 101.

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