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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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Highfire
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This is the sign of someone who doesn't like being proven wrong and resorts to insults to keep his "argument" strong.

Sour. :P

Also I feel that MageGray's quote I took applies to sin, blasphemy and in this case, heresy. <3

Also I know my last post answered only the first page but... well hey, I'm fairly sure where the debates will be heading. That -- and this is 74 pages long, it will take too long reading all the biblical scriptures undoubtedly coming out only to counter it with pure pure logic. <3

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bryceop
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for all we know god definatly does exist people see evidence of the big bang there is no reason why god could not have made the big bang then life.

HahiHa
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for all we know god definatly does exist people see evidence of the big bang there is no reason why god could not have made the big bang then life.

He could have done, but that's an unnecessary assumption. Also, there's no reason why it couldn't have happened without god, either, right?
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for all we know god definatly does exist

Who says that?

people see evidence of the big bang there is no reason why god could not have made the big bang then life.

And there's no reason why a god should exist. Why couldn't the big bang happened by itself (e.g. quantum fluctuation)?
ComradeGamer
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Why don't I believe in god?


Vote I must disagree with you at this time,

just because back then the priests or bishops during med-evil period were ranked highest in the period does not have anything to do with the existence of God, all it proved was that they were more favored in the capitalist pyramid.
ComradeGamer
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If you guys wanna see a real good philosophical logical theist then look at William Lane Craig's debates on youtube, you should see his debate against Christopher Hitchens too it was great :P

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Look, god can't have always been here because that would be being here for infinity and when he made the world he ended infinity which is impossible. Where as there are many theories as to how the big bang came about which are all far more likely.

MageGrayWolf
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you should see his debate against Christopher Hitchens too it was great :P


You mean this?
Debate - William Lane Craig vs Christopher Hitchens - Does God Exist?

I don't have the chance to sit through it right now but I will. But given some of the comments I have my doubts.

example:
Craig is delusional. It's almost funny how he has to twist and interpret reality to fit his religious view...but it's not funny because it's not true.
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I used to, but one day i woke up and realized that i don't believe anymore. And it wasn't any event or tragedy that made me stop believing, i just lost faith. Now i hope God exists, but thats as close as i get to believing.

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45 minutes in Mage and so far it's been pretty interesting.

So far...pretty much, Craig has completely ignored the bible's story of creation, and asserted the whole chance argument vs intelligent design of the universe, and also threw out some philosophical views on why a God might exist. Hitchens is just starting, so far he's said essentially, that you can't 100% disprove a god, as you could go so far as to say everything is from god and everything that has ever occured was caused by god, and that just can't be argued. Then he went on to Craig's claim that God worked via the universe, that God would have no reason to create the big bang, go through the whole 4.5 billion years of evolution, etc, if he in fact existed. Pretty much all so far.

MageGrayWolf
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45 minutes in Mage and so far it's been pretty interesting.


I'm about 19 minutes in and I see Craig has opened with a complete fallacy.
AnaLoGMunKy
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Sour. :P


Aye I lack the patience of yourself and Mage. Kudos, props and a fat cigar
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The reason I don't belive in God is because I can't see how that person could exist in the first place. How was God created if there was nothing to create him with?. People have the right to their own opinion, and thats ok, but you have to respect other opinions as well.

cowmaster1
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How was God created if there was nothing to create him with?


He never was created, He always was
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Watching Nintendo's conference on IGN now. Cant wait to see Project Cafe.

Oh and SKYRIM GOTY HELL YEAH SKYRIM ROX

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