Well I'm pretty sure we all know about the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with atom bombs by America near the end of World War 2, right? Now here's my question: Was it justified? I mean, it's done and gone, but was it all right? I mean, it got Japan out of World War 2, which arguably was a vital step in the Allied victory. But billions of innocent people died in the bombed cities. But, also, as I said, this was a vital step in ending WW2. So it probably saved as many innocent lives as it killed, not just people captured by the Axis Powers, but soldiers as well. But the question still stands. Was the use of the atom bomb justified?
Wrong. The first bombing had completely devestated Japan, they understood they had no chance. The second bombing was unnecessary and idiotic.
the days between the bombings arent instant, americans waited three days before they threw another bomb. the jappaness never and answered and they wouldnt even have surrendered if it wasnt for the attack on japan from the russians, they had declared martial law and then when the second bomb hit they finaly surrendered.
Yes the bombs where justified, maybe thanks to them we had less victims. War is a criminal thing. Anyone who saw Nagasaki would suddenly realize that they'd been kept in the dark by the United States government as to what atomic bombs can do. Lawrence Ferlinghetti
the days between the bombings arent instant, americans waited three days before they threw another bomb. the jappaness never and answered and they wouldnt even have surrendered if it wasnt for the attack on japan from the russians, they had declared martial law and then when the second bomb hit they finaly surrendered.
An entire city was eliminated from existence. There was no one alive to tell them about what had happened. It was likely the Japanese did not even know about the bombing for a while. A few days was not enough time.
I saw the documentary you guys were talking about. The Emperor was trying to surrender I think before Hiroshima. There was a coup though, and he couldn't formally surrender in time. I'll try to research it more in the interest of this discussion.
Think of the casualties of the 2 ATom Bombs less than 500,000 dead. Now think of the caustties of American British Australian Canadian and all those Allies nations Casualties if they had to invade Japan. Estimates Ranged from 500,000 to 1,000,000 DEAD not even counting the wounded crippled shell shocked soldiers. Then there would have been massive naval losses and by the time Tokyo fell there would probably be Huge resistance from the japenese. "Complete and utter destruction" was given and saved many allied lives and even more Japenese lives
Don't forget the estimates for Japanese dead if an invasion occurred. Depending on how strong the Japanese resisted an allied invasion, millions or tens of millions would die.
Surviving 2 nuclear blasts... epic I believe that the Nuclear Bombing was the quickest and easiest method of ending humanity's greateast and bloodiest conflict, The Americans chose the lesser of the two evils, but the intentional loss of Human life can never be justified for one's self gain.
Think of the casualties of the 2 ATom Bombs less than 500,000 dead. Now think of the caustties of American British Australian Canadian and all those Allies nations Casualties if they had to invade Japan. Estimates Ranged from 500,000 to 1,000,000 DEAD not even counting the wounded crippled shell shocked soldiers. Then there would have been massive naval losses and by the time Tokyo fell there would probably be Huge resistance from the japenese. "Complete and utter destruction" was given and saved many allied lives and even more Japenese lives
We've moved on from that, now the argument is not BOTH bombs were necessary. One would've done the trick, and had done the trick. But the United States didn't give enought time for Japanese surrender.
I don't even know why they were in the war, some Japanese came and killed a couple of people and sunk one ship in some harbour.
[quote]I don't even know why they were in the war, some Japanese came and killed a couple of people and sunk one ship in some harbour really? are you serious? the japanese attacked unprepared soldiers, ships, planes, and a base WITHOUT DECLARING WAR!!! I am not a supporter of violence, nor have ever taken part in it, but when you are faced with war, the most respectful thing to do is to declare first. A war between Japan and the U.S. was definite, but they just needed to decide a when. That's when the Japanese provided it in an unfair and cruel way. As for the atomic bombs, they should have dropped one bomb then started the invasion. The Japanese would have been overwhelmed and not orderly enough to raise a defensive that quick.
pearl harbor was anoyingly stupid on japans front but the americans knew about it and could have defended themselves if they dint want too join the war.
as for the two nukes im starting too agree with blu, atleast moderatly, they could have waited like a week before the second one.
of course the thought that they wanted an answer quickly could have provocked the ssecond attack.
all in all they should have waited,(btw it took the japaness about 2 days too learn about the destruction of hiroshima and the last day they where considering ways of surrender, im still wondering if they would have surrendered tho.
don't even know why they were in the war, some Japanese came and killed a couple of people and sunk one ship in some harbour really? are you serious? the japanese attacked unprepared soldiers, ships, planes, and a base WITHOUT DECLARING WAR!!! I am not a supporter of violence, nor have ever taken part in it, but when you are faced with war, the most respectful thing to do is to declare first. A war between Japan and the U.S. was definite, but they just needed to decide a when. That's when the Japanese provided it in an unfair and cruel way. As for the atomic bombs, they should have dropped one bomb then started the invasion. The Japanese would have been overwhelmed and not orderly enough to raise a defensive that quick.
yes so lets nuke 1 city and hope the Japanese are to confused to raise a defense that had been planned for a couple of months. the defense of japan had been planned bunkers were made along the coast and the civilian population was given weapons MONTHs before the bombing. The bombing was fully justified all the japenese would of fought to the death every one. The island of japan would of been devastated and we wouldn't have nintendo
I don't even know why they were in the war, some Japanese came and killed a couple of people and sunk one ship in some harbour.
They killed a lot of people. What happened is what you should expect after being attacked. The US fought back.
now the argument is not BOTH bombs were necessary. One would've done the trick, and had done the trick. But the United States didn't give enought time for Japanese surrender.
Also, the Japanese didn't have enough time to asses everything. They could of surrendered after being struck by one bomb. They could of. You can never be sure. The destruction of Nagasaki increased the chances of a surrender.
The bottom line is, you can't be sure about the Japanese and if they would surrender after the first bomb was dropped.
If we had just dropped one bomb they might have thought we only had just the one and the the worst was over (i dont mean that the invasion woudnt have been bad or the the bombs were worse then an invasion would have been i just cant think of any other words right now), but i dont really know what would have happened thats really just kind of a thought with nothing to back it up. :P
