Hey all you science and church fanatics/followers, whichever category you may fall into. What do you think, evolution, or creationism? Evolutionists put their belief in the theory of evolution, which is taught in many schools. Creationists believe in the idea that some higher power created Earth and the rest of the universe. Perosonally, I am an evolutionist. Do you agree with me, or disagree and why?
Perhaps you misinterpreted what I meant. Note that I said 'better' and not 'good'.
Perhaps I did a bit. Though I wouldn't even consider it one of the better arguments. Mostly I was trying to point out that it was a worthless argument to use for those trying to use it here.
Well, we have space telescopes, we've seen planets with water, and there is no sign of life on these planets, happy. No one can say we're intimately familiar with any planet period. Not even our own.
Well, we have space telescopes, we've seen planets with water, and there is no sign of life on these planets, happy.
That's a pretty defeatist attitude. Why do you think we can conclusively say there is no manner of life whatsoever on a planet purely by looking through a telescope at it?
Even if there are only micoscopic life forms on the planet, I don't think any kind of telescope we currently have would get that kind of resolution.
Well, we have space telescopes, we've seen planets with water, and there is no sign of life on these planets, happy. No one can say we're intimately familiar with any planet period. Not even our own.
What we are seeing through the telscopes is sort of like a shadow of the planet. for an example take a small rubber ball and place it in front of a flashlight and look at it from a distance this is what we are seeing.
We are just now beginning to find Earth sized planets. So we are still far from finding life on other planets.
Now what I am guessing you are talking about with finding planets with water would be more likely within our own solar system. Even here it is suggested there might be life in places like one of Jupiter's moons that contains liquid water under it's icy surface. but we are far from knowing for sure even there.
Not sure, I'm an agnostic so I believe in both. I think some kind of higher power had something to do with the universe... but I still believe in evolution It just makes sense to me, I have nothing against the two theories I just hate when people follow it and make it into a religion >.<
I think if there were an intelligent creator, he/she'd be intellegent enough to tear up this universe, throw it into the trash, and start a new one because WE ARE RIDICULOUS AND WE'VE MESSED UP OUR WORLD! I am an evolutionist, but I understand the qualities of the Theory of Creationalism. I was a raised a Catholic and believed in it for a short while. And don't think just cause I was a little kid doesn't mean I fully understood. I STILL go to a Catholic school, where we are taught religion class, and I STILL go to church once every month. I saw a documentary on how life was assumed to begin by Evolution. I saw only one hole in the system then: How the first cell came to be. I don't know, I want to know, and I don't think we'll find out soon. But I do understand the concept of a code that changes itself, tweaks and fixes itself, adapts itself, changes it to different needs and such, etc. Life, in my eyes, is essentially a computer that runs itself. Like Descartes once said, "Cogito, ergo sum(I think, therefore, I am)" The computer realizes it's there, sorts out its needs and orders, then changes it's codes to match the solution of the problems, needs, and orders. But life is a very slow computer, changing its codes over generations. Eventually, after trillions and trillions of code changes, a computer code gets detailed enough to use one process to fix another(apes using tools, dolphins and meercats using signals, squid changing there color for alert, etc.)This is my theory, and the Life is a Computer thing was merely an analogy, so don't start rambling about that, please, thank you.
WEll, I believe in Evolution, and saying that God created the universe, and people believe that, blows my mind. Saying that you believe that this whole vast, amazing universe was created by God, in 7 days, is basically saying that your a barbarian. We, as a human race, need to evolve ourselves, things evolve as we speak, explain why birds now mate week earlier, I can tell you why in the first place, it because the caterpillars hatch a few weeks earlier, and they die out earlier so the birds now have to mate earlier to keep their chicks food, it's basically evolution. things evolve to fit in with there surroundings. If it wasn't for evolution we would just be a bunch of mindless apes.
I saw a documentary on how life was assumed to begin by Evolution. I saw only one hole in the system then: How the first cell came to be.
whimsyboy what your talking about here isn't evolution but the theory of abiogenesis. Evolution doesn't deal with how life began just what it did since then.
In the world of science theory and law have the same meaning.
As a scientist myself, I can tell you for certain that theory and law do NOT have the same meaning in our community.
In science, a theory is a hypothesis (educated guess) or group of hypothesis that can be or are supported by repetitive testing. Theories can be disproven if there is evidence (through testing) to dispute the theory. However, a scientific law is obtained through observation only. Therefore, a law can tell you something can happen, but not give the reason of why it happened. In other words, there is no scientific evidence to prove or disprove the law.
When trying to tell the two apart, just ask yourself if you have a reason why (theory), or no reason but observation (law).
Back to the topic of the thread ... evolution is a theory and creationism is a thought. The problem with "creationism" is that we can't even observe it, let alone create a hypothesis through testing.
I belive in God but its obvious creationism is a lod of rubbish (no offence anyone). How do you explain fossils without using evolution? God made the big bang and nature sorted out the rest. Thats a nice little compromise isn't it?
Because for example if everything was created by something or someone than what created that item or person. It doesnt make sense to say someone or something created this world, but ask who created them.
