Now while some people thing that communism would fail after a certain point... what if... you reformed it into a more socialistic society?
In theory communism is best, we all know that. But in real life a less stringent form of goverment like socialism would be far better as we know not everyone will work equally like machines. Although socialism is similar, in many ways it is also different. It prevents the oppresive dictators from forming and more rights to the people. I believe that capitalism is about as sad as it gets. The Soviet Union would of lasted much longer had they increase consumer goods and decrease military might. See the way to a great nation is not through death and war. It is through creating a country that is so great, safe, and powerful. That people from other places would say.
Hey, would i want to fight them, they've done no harm. In fact i would rather go and fight for them than here.
It is sort of a unique form of socialism, keeping the basics, but working on the details, show others that you are strong, happy, and proud of your country. That if it came down to it. Would you give your life to go fight for your motherland? You, by your own mind, would immediately say Yes.
And to one day, have peace, by achieveing a global socialistic state. It have a end to wars, to focus on reserch in space, and work on technology for quicker food production, cheap and clean fuel sources.
To have the Reformed USSR on the globe and nothing else in my dream. For everyone to be equal and have a fair chance at life, if they want to be an astronaut, they will be. Not have some school deny him or her that dream because they can't afford the ridulose price of college.
For education and healthcare to be cheap or free. To help their neighbor in times of need. This is my dream, and i'm ready to make it happen.
[i]The Revolution is coming... The Question is... Are You Ready...?
Also, for more communes. Some of these I was unaware myself. There is also another one in mind that I dont know the name of.
Although communes are most frequently associated with the hippie movement-- the "back-to-the-land" ventures of the 1960s and 1970s-- there is a long history of communes in America. Andrew Jacobs of The New York Times wrote that "after decades of contraction, the American commune movement has been expanding since the mid-1990's, spurred by the growth of settlements that seek to marry the utopian-minded commune of the 1960's with the American predilection for privacy and capital appreciation."[4]
A few notable examples include:
* The Harmony Society started by Johann Georg Rapp in Harmony, Pennsylvania, in 1804 and dissolving around 1905 in Economy, Pennsylvania, was one of the longest-running financially successful communes in American history.
* Brook Farm in Massachusetts existed from 1841 to 1847. Nathaniel Hawthorne, one of the commune's founders, fictionalized his experience in the novel The Blithedale Romance (1852).
* Fruitlands was a commune founded in 1843 by Amos Bronson Alcott in Harvard, Massachusetts. The tempo of life in this Transcendentalist community is recorded by Alcott's daughter, Louisa May Alcott, in her piece "Transcendental Wild Oats."
* The Oneida Community was a commune that lasted from 1848 to 1881 in Oneida, New York. Although this utopian experiment is better known today for its manufacture of Oneida silverware, it was one of the longest-running communes in American history.
* The commune Modern Times was formed in 1851 in Long Island.
* The Amana Colonies were communal settlements in Iowa which lasted from 1855 to 1932.
* The anarchist Home Colony was formed in 1895 across the Puget Sound from Tacoma, Washington on Key Peninsula, and lasted until 1919.
* The Twin Oaks Community is a commune that was founded in 1967, and it continues to this day.
* Ganas is a commune currently in existence in the New Brighton neighborhood of Staten Island, New York.
* The Latin Settlements by German freethinkers mostly in rural, south central Texas in the mid 1800s.
Quite impossible it sounds, but communism as an ideology is as old as humanity itself. Its' manifesto was just written a few hundred years ago yes, but it is a very old idea.
Not really. Since when did people ever think of a revolutionary ideology where they would overthrow their government and establish a society where the people themselves were in control. The oldest idea of this I think is in the 1600s, where some guy wrote a book called Utopia, which was similar to communist ideals.
Egalitarian communities are groups of people who have chosen to live together, with egalitarianism as one of their core values. A broad definition of egalitarianism is "equal access to resources and to decision-making power." For example, decision-making is done by consensus or another system in which each person has a voice; it is not done hierarchically with only one or a few people making choices that will affect the whole group. If the group shares assets (income, vehicles, etc.), they are distributed equitably throughout the group, and each member has access to more-or-less the same resources as any other member. Egalitarian communities are a type of Commune (intentional community) (some communal groups are not egalitarian in nature).
An "egalitarian decision" is a decision made by a group as opposed to a single individual. The decision may be made by committee or elected members but still is an egalitarian decision.
The Federation of Egalitarian Communities is a network of communal groups in North America with values including egalitarianism, non-violence, income-sharing and cooperation.
This a list of intentional communities with an egalitarian theme.
* A-Welcome-To-All We Invite You * Acorn Community * East Wind Community * The Emma Goldman Finishing School * Kommune Niederkaufungen * L'Arche * Meadowdance * Oran Mór * Sandhill Farm * Skyhouse * Twin Oaks Community * Drop City
Acorn has a work quota of 42 hours a week, which all adult members are expected to do. All work is equally creditable. Almost anything that needs to be done is considered work. This includes traditionally recognized work such as taking orders in the office, farming and accounting. However less traditionally recognized work such as childcare, cooking and preparing for communal parties are equally labour creditable. As a result members feel they have significantly more free time than when they were working regular jobs. Four weeks holiday are given for free and working over quota can accumulate additional holiday. The labour system is a little more relaxed than the Twin Oaks system of assigning work. Members simply do what they believe needs to be done.
East wind community
Founded in 1973, it is a secular and democratic community in which members hold all communities assets in common. Each member is also given food, shelter, clothing, medical care, education, and a monthly discretionary fund.[1] All major decisions are made by direct democratic processes and most positions in the community are elected.
If my argument didnt consider you then perhaps this will show you that humans dont have it in their genes to be evil bastards who love money and love to better then everyone else.
Sounds rather silly doesnt it.
And if your going to explain that it wont work on a higher scale, better explain why.
If my argument didnt consider you then perhaps this will show you that humans dont have it in their genes to be evil *******s who love money and love to better then everyone else.
Sounds rather silly doesnt it.
And I still have the key argument. It requires people to be perfect. If all work is credible, my friend could mine a mountain in 42 hours and still be the same as if I mopped a floor in 42 hours.
Doesn't sound very silly anymore.
Anyway, I need some kind of intermission. Can we put this off for say, two hours?
And I still have the key argument. It requires people to be perfect. If all work is credible, my friend could mine a mountain in 42 hours and still be the same as if I mopped a floor in 42 hours.
Doesn't sound very silly anymore.
Anyway, I need some kind of intermission. Can we put this off for say, two hours?
respond anytime you want.
It depends on what you consider credible. All labor in society has to be done. Janitors actually have a very important job. Well of course, some jobs are harder then others. Do you think the community is going to politely ignore your actions if you dont do the share of the work? Society will have the control of what is being produced. You as an individual wont be able to get away with doing nothing if others find you being unfair while they do their share of the work. There is the power to stop such unfairness, to the point that you wouldnt think about it.
What doesnt sound nice about doing your share of the work and getting your share of the work? you do your share of the work and others do their, and thus everyone reaps the benefits.
But then an upper class of jurers must be enacted to impose the punishment. If everyone is equal, then no one person can exact punishment.
See where I'm going?
Haha. Your just trying to play with definitions here. Define equal.
We aren't trying to create a society where everyone is perfectly equal. There is no use for that. The goal is to abolish classes. A jurer is a job, though they have power over the defendant that does not make them have a higher role in society as their power is upheld by the society. People elect jurers and have the right to take them down.
Also, jurers do not create a upper "class" as they do not have control over the means of the productions. They are simple workers.
Also, jurers do not create a upper "class" as they do not have control over the means of the productions. They are simple workers.
One who can give out beheadings or prison sentences has far more power than anyone. And what about foremen? They have to be there to get anything done. They are of a higher class, as they would then start to glorify their positions. Humans are naturally selfish, and they are naturally egotistical.
Why the hell do you need millions of dollars just to smile? True happiness comes from with in. And it's double-happiness if you're helping everyone.
Once again, I agree. All of that money is man made and could be worthless if anything happened. All people should be working for the common good of all people, not just one or a few.
Well of course, some jobs are harder then others. Do you think the community is going to politely ignore your actions if you dont do the share of the work?
