ForumsWEPRNot apes ... Some other creatures A.K.A humans .

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Jacques
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Okay I am sorry for the last tread I made, I've done some research and I was right , we did not evolve from apes (as I said) , but from hairy ape like creatures :

They where very different from apes . They were omnivores (not like apes) and the used a language which I could not find out what it was and they used tools . And they lived in caves .

Who supports my opinion ?

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Moegreche
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Who supports my opinion ?

Is this your opinion you're describing or the scientific theory?
There were several species of Homo, i.e., early humans, that used stone tools and were hairy. Most of them appear to have died off.
But where are you going with this? Are you trying to refute or support it?
valkyrie1119
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Dude, you know you can't deny evolution, thus disproving a bit of religion wrong. Or maybe a lot of it.

Cenere
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Funnily enough it was what we tried to tell you. Humans and apes has the same common ancestor.

But no idea what you are trying, though...

goumas13
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Then it's Darwin's theory or Darwinism or Evolutionism. It's nothing new it was made in the 19th century and it has been proven scientifically correct

Xavier1
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Okay I am sorry for the last tread I made, I've done some research and I was right , we did not evolve from apes (as I said) , but from hairy ape like creatures :

They where very different from apes . They were omnivores (not like apes) and the used a language which I could not find out what it was and they used tools . And they lived in caves .

Who supports my opinion ?


Some links would help.
communist09
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Okay I am sorry for the last tread I made, I've done some research and I was right , we did not evolve from apes (as I said) , but from hairy ape like creatures :

They where very different from apes . They were omnivores (not like apes) and the used a language which I could not find out what it was and they used tools . And they lived in caves .


It's called Darwin's Origin of Species aka evolution
Jacques
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The first humans lived between 3½ and 4 million years ago. They were called Australopithecus afarensis and had apelike heads, walked upright, and were primarily plant-eaters. Around 2½ million years ago, the next in the line of human ancestors emerged: Homo habilis. Homo habilis stood nearly five feet tall, was a meat-eater, and crafted simple tools from pebbles.

Near the beginning of the Pleistocene epoch (the epoch which began about 2 million years ago and ended 10,000 years ago), Homo habilis evolved, or gradually changed, into Homo erectus (Java Man). Homo erectus used fire, built huts, and hunted in groups. Throughout the Pleistocene epoch, Homo erectus steadily evolved into Homo sapiens, the species that includes Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons, and modern humans.

Since about 40,000 years ago, the only remaining form of Homo sapiens...

Here is the link where I found this :
http://www.enotes.com/science-fact-finder/biology/how-did-humans-evolve

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Primitive humans did not have early speech, now I don't know a ton about this topic, but I can say that we survived just about the same ways as apes, we ate fruit, hid in trees, lived in caves even, but it was only when we invented the spear (Out of a bamboo stalk) that we were separated.

deserteagle
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but it was only when we invented the spear (Out of a bamboo stalk) that we were separated.


Don't forgot about fire Krizaz!
Krizaz
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Don't forgot about fire Krizaz!


Spear was first, the first fire to actually stay lit in rain and high winds was much later, they used pine tree sap.
Pixie214
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They were omnivores (not like apes)


*bypasses whole point of thread*

Apes (in general) are omnivores sure the majotiry of their diet is seeds and fruit (and yes bananas) but theu will eat insects, scavenged bits of meet or even kill their own prey.

It is a shame that out of all the hominids we know the least about homo sapiens (sapiens) origins... last I checked.
deserteagle
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we know the least about homo sapiens (sapiens) origins... last I checked.


We don't know much about our species? I'm pretty sure we know a lot about our anatomy and our psychology.
Pixie214
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We don't know much about our species? I'm pretty sure we know a lot about our anatomy and our psychology.


It is a shame that out of all the hominids we know the least about homo sapiens (sapiens) origins


Our origins is what we don't know about... we don't have a conclusive theory of where we came from. The "our of Africa" theory is the best but there are holes in it like msot theories.
goumas13
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The best theory is the African origin of modern humans, but we need more information to prove it correct or wrong.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2mm96wg.png

Pixie214
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The best theory is the African origin of modern humans, but we need more information to prove it correct or wrong.


Ok here the holes I know about in the theory... I learnt this a while back so apologises if some have been challenged by now.

The "out of Africa" theory is based on mitochondrial DNA allowing us to trace our ancestry back to africa. One analogy of this study is picking a random road in London and following it to John O'Groats, then stating all roads in the world lead to John O'Groats.

Looking at the evidence of Acheulean tools, which early humans seemed to be obsessed with as they were with many tools. These tools are found everywhere ancient man went, throughout Europe and Africa but there are none in the Far East only older forms of tools that were not as good. Did they just down tools and use older ones.

Lake Mungo in Australia contains remains of humans that are 60 thousand years old. Therefore early humans sailed 100 km over turbulent southern seas then walked 3,000 km through the Australian outback. There is no evidemce we could speak let alone undertake such a voyage. So how did we get there?

Natives of Papa New Guinea have been farming Sweet Potatoes for hundreds of years. Sweet Potatoes are native to south America so how did they cross the pacific in the first place? Especially bearing in mind that the sweet potatoes in Papa New Guinea seem to be vine cultivated... if it was from a seed it could be almost plausable that that a native went across the Pacific picked up a few seed and went home... but how did they keep a vine alive over many miles of ocean?

No neanderthal bones have ever been found in Africa but there tools are everywhere. Acheulean tools existed in the Middle East for 700 hundred thousand years before they appear in the Europe despite being able to make the tools no one did. Why? Homo Sapiens only entered Europe at the start of a small Ice Age there, why wait until then?
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