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buzzmerin
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Obama has been ordering and embarresing Israel since he first got into office. forcing them to pull out out of gaza (israel is still bombed by them, don't listen to the news) speaking with enemies over what Israel has done, and even argued wether Jerusalem should be the capital. Please tell me your opinion.

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playaholic
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i think hes a little too pushy lol

DirtyCodingHabitz
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Obama is helping the Muslims more then the Christians

you can't make peace in the middle east when it comes to religion lol

I support Israel but Obama is letting them down since he came on, Bush ran the relationship way better

buzzmerin
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that is 1 of the things bush could do, keep israel as freinds

DirtyCodingHabitz
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man the media and the news they can make anyone look bad

all the countries around Israel are Muslim so every Christian country has to help them out, oh wait Obama didn't he's turning his back on everyone of us and helping Muslims

Veobahamut
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Obama = Christian

America = not a Christian country.


Also Isreal has been abusing Gaza for a long time, Maybe if they stopped people in Gaza wouldn't have to attack Isreal so often.

DirtyCodingHabitz
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America = not a Christian country.


I like to see you say that when Obama was becoming a president at the White House when that priest came and was asking Obama to repeat

the whole country is gonna hate you and probably get shot by everyone lol
Veobahamut
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I like to see you say that when Obama was becoming a president at the White House when that priest came and was asking Obama to repeat

the whole country is gonna hate you and probably get shot by everyone lol


Yeah at least I know something about America, Not everyone in america is christian and the government isn't.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ."

This is from the first amendment of the constition, Some of you may disagree on how it's handled but this point only to educate the previous poster who doesn't know anything, also I've been to America nobody shot me.
Veobahamut
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constitution*

thelistman
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Obama became president two days AFTER Israel pulled out of Gaza. He did not order Israel to do anything. Obama has also supported Israel just as much as any other president. He has supported every one of their major military operations in Palestine.

Please give me one source where he questions the Capital being Jerusalem. And Bill O'Reilly doesn't count.

buzzmerin
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Gaza abuzed Israel first, but nobody reported on that. When Israel fights back, guess who looks like monsters.

Veobahamut
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Gaza abuzed Israel first, but nobody reported on that. When Israel fights back, guess who looks like monsters.


I'm not an expert but didn't Isreal start building all over gaza without permission?
buzzmerin
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[I'm not an expert but didn't Isreal start building all over gaza without permission?]
i haven't heard of such, not saying you are wrong, just asking if you may be so kind as to give me a source.

Veobahamut
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i haven't heard of such, not saying you are wrong, just asking if you may be so kind as to give me a source.


Look around your self, it's your topic, oh and i know you reall want to but don't look for really biased sites that will support Isreal look for something thats not on a side.
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I'm not an expert but didn't Isreal start building all over gaza without permission?


Yes - the issue is that Israelities decided to settle illegally on the West & East Bank & in Gaza:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/09/2650586.htm

The EU & UN don't recognize Israel's presence and occupation there as strictly legal.

As for Obama's involvement & his manner of speaking to the other countries in the area you refer to as 'enemies' - Israel isn't at all innocent in the region. If there's any hope for peace in the region, we need to start treating these people as friends and equals; especially with regards to Palestine & the gaza strip - one of the reasons they might be resorting to violence is because they don't have a diplomatic voice that is being listened to in the international community.

I think Israel should pull the settlers out permanently. They don't have a right to settle illegally; if they want to live there, then they have to be a part of Palestine and follow their laws.
goumas13
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Obama did well not supporting that much Israel. The state of Israel has made lately too many horrendous crimes. Here are some examples.

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