ForumsWEPRShould we be more stricter on people who murder people on purpose?

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xplayfang4
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ok this is a big thing hears the deal whut do you want to hapin to a person that kills one of your family member would you want them to stay in prison for life like what it is now where prisons is overflowing becase of this or would you like to have them exicutid becase they took a life so should theres be taken too???

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kakashi890
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well i think to each his/her own and to all live and let live.[what i stated above is my personel belifes] i know i can't spell to save my life

Ernie15
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ok heres what i think.you kill some one it becomes a eye for a eye,meaning you get killed in the same way.


Let's say an adult gives a baby a bunch of alcohol on purpose to kill it. The baby will certainly die.

But, if the adult gives the baby an amount of alcohol that won't kill the adult, they cannot be killed in the same way. So, this punishment definitely doesn't work out all the time.
FireflyIV
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Whilst I do think some crimes merit the death penalty, the chance of killing an innocent is to great a risk to ever have to take.

St1cKyH4nd
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an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
-ghandi

wistress
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as punishment for making me read suuch a long thing. (jking jeez lighten up.) i provide you this link :P


Ok ...I have read the page written by Wesley Lowe,a supporter of the death penalty, which means it's a biased report.
However, below I have quoted a passage from Wesley (in italics) and the facts that don't support what he is stating.


"In fact, there is absolutely no evidence that the death penalty in this country has ever executed even ONE innocent in the past century!"

That is absolutely NOT true. Obviously, Wesley is living behind a wall of fantasy that support his findings, whereas the actual facts do not support his findings. Please read this link to see who has been executed and found to be innocent after their death through DNA testing and/or forensic science. A few actually had this evidence before their death, but the judicial system upheld their verdict anyway. No one should be put to death when there is a "shadow of a doubt", however some of these inmates were put to death anyway.


In addition, Wesley states that murder is different then execution because murder is "UNLAWFUL killing of a person with malice and aforethought." Well, that is the same as execution, exception of "unlawful". However, execution is done as aforethought and is also malicious. For him to state otherwise is total contradiction.
I am not going to go on any further, because frankly, a lot of Wesley's pro death penalty arguments do not spring from fact and sound like a whim of fancy.

However, thanks for the long read Graham. You definitely got me back. :P
Graham
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to tell you the truth i haven't even read the link i provided. i just googled pro death penalty and took one that seemed long.

madeja read for nufin >

wistress
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to tell you the truth i haven't even read the link i provided. i just googled pro death penalty and took one that seemed long.


So, instead of looking at the facts from both sides, you decided to google your "argument", pro death, and NOT read that either... interesting way of debating. <<< sarcasm
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What we need to do is try to strike a balance between deterrence and attacking crime at the source. Just getting rid of the main causes of criminal motivation - poverty, poor education, etc. - isn't enough because not all people commit crimes because of their upbringing. Only deterring potential criminals wouldn't work either, because some people just don't care.

Wed need to be tough, but we also need to be intelligent. Just giving a lethal injection to every murderer isn't the solution, but neither is pouring billions into refurbishing communities, schools, and criminal rehabilitation - we need to treat both of the main motivators for crime, not just one of them.

Nurvana
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Life Sentence or Death
THEY KILLED A PERSON PEOPLE!

Jacques
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I think that every person who murders intentionally should receive the death penalty.

goumas13
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I think that every person who murders intentionally should receive the death penalty.

I strongly disagree, there are many mitigating factors, there are conditions that affect the judgment of the murderer and there exist many motives to kill, some of them can be slightly justified, though murder is always a horrendous the punishment should be different depending by the circumstances .
Legatus88
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If a person is killed intentionally by another they should receive the death penalty preceded by a fair trial.

FloydTC
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Life Sentence or Death
THEY KILLED A PERSON PEOPLE!


exactly so why kill another?
Blu3sBr0s
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I strongly disagree, there are many mitigating factors, there are conditions that affect the judgment of the murderer and there exist many motives to kill, some of them can be slightly justified, though murder is always a horrendous the punishment should be different depending by the circumstances .


Exactly. A Black and White rule cannot be justified.
Graham
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So, instead of looking at the facts from both sides, you decided to google your "argument", pro death, and NOT read that either... interesting way of debating. 


hey hey... i just wanted to make you read something long about what you disagree with. i have my reasons.

A Black and White rule cannot be justified.


justice is an opinion
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