ForumsWEPRWhoa, here are just *some* of the changes included in the health"care" Bill

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Excelsior
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From the healthcare bill:

Pg 30, Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT. COMMITTEE that decides what treatment you get.

Pg 29, lines 4-16 - YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 58, - Govt. will have real-time access to individual's finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!

Pg 59, lines 21-24 - Govt. will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.

Pg 85, Line 7 - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members, your health care WILL be rationed.

Pg 102, Lines 12-18 - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. NO CHOICE.

Pg 126, Lines 22-25 - Employers MUST pay for Health Care for part time employees AND their families.

Pg 167, Lines 18-23 - ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable Health Care according to the govt. will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 195, HC Bill - officers & employees of HC Admin. (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans' financial and personal records.

Pg 241, Line 6-8 - Doctors, it doesn't matter what specialty you have, youâll all be paid the same.

Pg 265, Sec 1131 - Govt. mandates & controls productivity for private Health Care industries.

Pg 268, Sec 1141 - Federal Govt. regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

Pg 272, SEC. 1145 - TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS. Cancer patients, welcome to rationing!

Pg 280, Sec 1151 - The Govt. will penalize hospitals for what the Govt. deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298, Lines 9-11 - Doctors, if you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a miss read, the Govt. will penalize you.

Pg 317, L 13-20 - OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt. tells Doctors what/how much they can own.

Pg 341, Lines 3-9 - Govt. has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc., forcing people into the Govt. plan.

Pg 425, Lines 4-12 - Govt. mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. Think Senior Citizens end of life (assisted suicide).

Pg 430, Lines 11-15 - The govt. will decide what level of treatment you will have at the end of YOUR life.

Pg 489, Sec 1308 - The govt. will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert govt. into your marriage.


So how's that hopesy changey stuff working out for you guys?

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deserteagle
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Were did you get a hold of this info? Sounds like a bias interpretation of it.

TSL3_needed
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I believe it. Sadly, it appears that we're out of control now.

Look it up desert if you want. You can find the health care bill somewhere on the internet in PDF form.

Buttocks
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Looking at the way this is put, it doesnt seem to be real.

Blu3sBr0s
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Doctors, it doesn't matter what specialty you have, youâ??ll all be paid the same.


If you happen to work in a public health care place, not one of the MANY MORE private health care companies.

The govt. will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert govt. into your marriage.


Wooow this is biased. It means they will insert government into helping keep families and marriages together

The govt. will decide what level of treatment you will have at the end of YOUR life


Blatant Lie.

Govt. mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. Think Senior Citizens end of life (assisted suicide).


No. Think government funded senior homes to decrease the amount of homeless seniors. And when I mean homeless I don't mean living on the street, I mena living with their children.

The Govt. will penalize hospitals for what the Govt. deems preventable readmissions


The government will hold hospitals accountable for loss of $ that was unnecessary?

OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt. tells Doctors what/how much they can own.


Blatant Lie.

officers & employees of HC Admin. (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans' financial and personal records.


You mean like when you pay taxes? They look at your financial records. Same thing.

ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable Health Care according to the govt. will be taxed 2.5% of income.


Because now everyone can have it

Guess what, do you know how difficult it is to get health care in America if you are born with a condition?

Very difficult. Because it isn't profitable to insure you as it is more likely you will need to use their insurance.

Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. NO CHOICE.


I can't choose not to have financial assistance in purchasing prescriptions D: OH NO!

Govt. will have real-time access to individual's finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!


Once again, like tax people =P And oh no! A little card which tells them you have health insurance so they don't need to run you through a system and delay your care when you arrive at the hospital!

Employers MUST pay for Health Care for part time employees AND their families.


HOW DARE THEY!

All in all. Most of what I read was a lie or totally rewritten in a biased way.
SuperzMcShort
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It's amazing how when things like this pop up phrases such as

which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card


Are taken to mean that the government is going to force everyone to get ID cards which they will then use to track our every move. I personally don't see where the evidence for that jump is.

Or how things like

An explanation . . . including living wills and durable powers of attorney . . .


becomes they're going to tell seniors to commit suicide.
Excelsior
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Blues, why don't you read the bill? I even gave the page number

thelistman
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You gave us page numbers, but interpreted the bill in a Republican way. There will be no "death panels," no national ID cards, the government will not have access to your bank accounts, the government will not force people to sign up for the public option. It's all Republican scare tactics.

VoteSocialist
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving away a longer life to everyone.

TSL3_needed
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You gave us page numbers, but interpreted the bill in a Republican way. There will be no "death panels," no national ID cards, the government will not have access to your bank accounts, the government will not force people to sign up for the public option. It's all Republican scare tactics.


I wouldn't say that. I guarantee of republicans wrote it, the whole media would destroy us.

100%, and you know it :P

And everything is scare tactics. You dems use scare tactics all the time, but does anyone complain? No.
Cholokid
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To those who don't believe it:

Showing it's a real interpretation

Translation of the 1,000 page long bill.

Oh, also if you don't believe it, all I have to say is lol.

thelistman
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@Cholokid

The sites you reference are openly conservative. It's lies.

Cholokid
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The sites you reference are openly conservative. It's lies.


That is some strong proof that its false, right there.
Graham
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i don't really like the OP because it shows you an interpretation rather than the text itself

Cholokid
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i don't really like the OP because it shows you an interpretation rather than the text itself




Have fun.
TSL3_needed
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I'm curious as to what crimes he's committed. Would you care to expand?


Let's start:

1) Sexual Harassment

2) (Assuming he's under 18) Viewing Pornographic Material

3) Harassment and Impersonation

4) Exposing Pornographic Material to Minors

Just a few. He's also violated the Terms and Conditions many a time, which is also illegal. That's a legal document.
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