ForumsWEPRI'm sick of half of you Commies (quite a few socialists as well)

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TSL3_needed
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I really am. Because, quite frankly, you are driving me nuts. I'm not sick of you because of what you believe in, but how freaking blind you are. This doesn't include a lot of you, but many of you are seriously becoming a blind, economically deficient set of individuals. You keep going on and on and on about how great communism and socialism are, and yet, you say capitalism is the freaking devil incarnate. You never once admit that there are flaws in the system, you never once did that. While I, myself a capitalist extremist, can honestly say that there are many flaws in the system. That leads me to believe that many, I repeat MANY, of you are far beyond extremism. You are completely beyond that point. I have yet to see some of you so much as mention the words 'flaw' and 'communism' in so much as the same post. In my personal opinion, while many of you preach open mindedness like a fanatical group of zealots, and preach atheism in the same way, you are a religious group of communists. You are nothing more than what you preach against.

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Sassin
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Well socialist is kind of like communist buts its not quite there but its near it Personally i think we need to have less government which means we have more freedom.

Freakenstein
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Well socialist is kind of like communist buts its not quite there but its near it Personally i think we need to have less government which means we have more freedom.


Socialism is a limited economy, where the government decides what goods to produce, how to produce them, and for whom to produce them.
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The problem is that the western countries thought that the not developed one would remain a such for ever. But what happens when the poor Pakistani or Bangladeshi or any other citizen of one of those countries wants a fridge and wants to as much as we?
It's not a rhetoric question.
The poor citizen of the undeveloped country will try to go the developed country. Migration, but what happens when millions of immigrants go to a country?
They want to work, but they can't cause there aren't enough jobs for them. They expected that they would become rich right away in that country, but they aren't the majority hasn't even something to eat. What to they do?
They live in the streets and commit crime because they want to live well.
What does the first generation of immigrants, the autochthonous citizens?
They hate them, they treat these immigrants badly and they abuse them.
What does the government do?
The voters have to be always happy, so they oppress them, they send them back to their countries, they don't allow them to go to a doctor they don't let them go to school.
So what do the immigrants now do?
They hide, they don't belong in the society, they make riots, they are violent and the police can't manage to control all this criminality.
After some years the oppressed immigrants have many young and violent teens, the teens are angry and they start destroying, burning etc. The government can't do much about it cause the autochthonous are older then them, we don't make many children and the result is seeing the modern society collapse.
If we don't change the way we live and how we behave the western civilizations will fall.

TSL3_needed
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Yakooza is so off it's still funny. The stand up comedy routine must be working out rather nicely eh? I'll go see you live if you ever come to town XD

Anyway I'm glad I only offended Yakooza. Rather good for it being up for an hour. Rants always offend someone :P

So thanks for the input.

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I would have to agree with this. I am really sick and tired of all of this "Socialism is the best form of government" crap. It seems like Socialism is the only thing in your lives, the only thing some of you think about. You come to a flash game site to preach Socialism, why? What's the point? Honestly, most of us couldn't care less about Socialism, its a friggin form of government. It isn't that great. All forms of government has flaws, Communism and Socialism are no different.

valkyrie1119
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Yeah, it seems like Yakooza is taking pride in making a fool out of himself xD

Drace
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GTFO lol
That was a big block of shit trying to be cool.

When you advocate a political system, your suppose to believe that it is the correct path. How can we be communists if we are to say that it has flaws and it wont work? Your trying to sum up politics as "Well we need balance of the two because they cant work" without any reason, but purely of ranting means.

If you think communists are stupid, you'll need to write many many books and argue with intellectuals to debunk the whole theory.
Go read f'in Marx, Adam Smith, some other economic books, philosophy, learn history and then you can even begin to understand politics. This is what intellectuals like Noam Chomsky do.

This is not a simple topic and your only way of defending capitalism is being under the mind set that if you don't believe a system has a flaw then your blind.

And you say your a extremist capitalist and yet say it has flaws. You make no sense yourself.

The only country that is pure anything is North Korea, which is pure Socialism ; look how "well" THEY are doing... No country is complete without a steady balance, we just have more Capitalism than Socialism right now.


No there not. There just a dictatorship. The workers have no control and they abandoned socialism officially quite long ago by replacing the Marxist-lennist ideals with their own set.
Drace
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And I seriously thought this was going to be a troll topic lol!
turns out it wasnt any better

goumas13
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What's the point?

Remember that most 14 year old kids don't have somebody smart (and open-minded) to talk about politics with. So they go to an internet forum (a not very mature one so they can understand what the other say cause all the users are about their age) to say what they think, it's their only place where they can say what they believe and learn more things about it.
Or just troll and call somebody stupid.
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No there not. There just a dictatorship. The workers have no control and they abandoned socialism officially quite long ago by replacing the Marxist-lennist ideals with their own set.


Yes, but their economic freedom is the least of every country. This means that their citizens have no freedom to buy or sell anything; the government does all of that. This is Socialism at work. Again, even some economic freedom can do some good in any country.
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Officially North Korea is socialist republic, but they are probably more a totalitarian Stalinist dictatorship.

valkyrie1119
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Remember that most 14 year old kids don't have somebody smart (and open-minded) to talk about politics with. So they go to an internet forum (a not very mature one so they can understand what the other say cause all the users are about their age) to say what they think, it's their only place where they can say what they believe and learn more things about it.
Or just troll and call somebody stupid.


How exactly do immature 14 year olds get interested in an uncool complicated form of government like Socialism? Aren't we just supposed to be video game nerds who sit in front of the TV all day and post about our worthless video game achievements here?

I just don't see why Socialism needs to be worshiped here.
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I don't think anyone's really halfcommie here, on the last thread about how awesome Communism is we ended up speculating &quoterfect communism", which is directly in thought some amazing utopia.

To the goumas post, i completely agree with that but also remember that when kids wonder and use the internet, they do fairly rise above the common political knowledge of his n00b peer. So its not bad, just annoying.

Anyway, I support Capitalism, Half way -- Since nothing is perfect, It haz tons of flaws. Communism has more, I'll agree with, but then again, our special representative democracy in America isn't the best, either.

goumas13
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How exactly do immature 14 year olds get interested in an uncool complicated form of government like Socialism?

Cause at such ages when you read something you can't quite easily impressed and it's also the age, you also start becoming a man, so you have to show that you are mature you know things and last all teens want to rebel, they don't want to be "controlled" by their parents so imagine how a conservative father would feel when his own son says: "Hey dad, capitalism is stupid, socialism rules!"
Aren't we just supposed to be video game nerds who sit in front of the TV all day and post about our worthless video game achievements here?

The TV and the games pass messages which are hard to notice, but can still easily impress a child's mind.
Example: You see a movie about China, an American kills some Chinese communists cause they are bad.
What's the message: communists are bad.

One last thing: You are supposed to be nerds, but when you have time to play games you have also time to think.
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