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Klaushouse
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You are stupid.

Some of you stupid people do not understand how much money it costs to keep this site running. You have a even harder time understanding the complexity of Dan not having multiple money trees planted in his back yard beside his flying unicorns. Dan spends hundreds if not thousands making sure this site stays up and running for thousands of little children.

http://lh4.google.co.uk/charliechia/RwHQxG96fRI/AAAAAAAAAYo/od3WZw50cX4/s400/money_tree%20copy.jpg
This is not Dan, or his backyard.

Why do you like this site? Probably because it's very simple to register, join, login, play free games and talk to other kids. But this great and simple design didn't just appear. People were payed to design it, code it, and make so simple that a kid can come on and instinctively know what to do, making sure you have the best time possible, and this isn't cheap. At all. Not only does he pay coders/designers, but he pays game makers, quite substantial amounts of money to make the best games you all love. And he pays them a lot, if any of you pay attention you will know some people get thousands of dollars for a single game.

http://www.undeadreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/the_last_stand_2.jpg
This cost Dan thousands of dollars, and you pay $0 to play it.

But hey! All these great features, we must be paying a lot for this much free games, and user easy of access! How much? Oh wait nothing! But wait a second... let's do some off the top of my head math...

Dan + No User Fees = Expensive To Maintain Website

No that just doesn't sound around right. There must be a missing factor.

Dan + No User Fees + X = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now let's brain storm and see what X could be that keeps this site running, oh wait no I know, ads! So the equation goes like this:

Dan + No User Fees + Ads = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now in reality the equation is much more complex but we will keep it simple for you. But what happens if you take the ads away from the equation? It's like taking away the 4 from 4 + 2 = 6, it just won't make sense or work out. Which is why they exist.

http://tonova.typepad.com/thesuddencurve/images/2008/08/16/hillbilly.jpg
Average AG user trying to keep up with my math.

[quote]Don't worry guys, don't like ads? Use ad blocker! So cool!

Says 'Stupid Child A'
But aren't the ads there for a reason? Or why else would they be there?

Says 'Moderately Smart Child B'
Don't be stupid, ads are just there to annoy us, they don't mind if we block them, makes no difference!

Replies 'Stupid Child A'
Oh okay, I guess that makes sense Stupid Child A. Thanks for pointing that out to me, let's go whine about Sonny 3 and how it's taking forever just after Sonny 2 came out a week ago!

Says 'Recently Deemed Stupid Child B'
Yeah let's go!

Finishes 'Stupid Child A'[/quote]

By blocking ads to make your petty lives easier, you are making harder for Dan to keep the site running, because he gets less money because of it. You block ads and this makes him want to keep this site under his management less and less, because money will soon come out of his pocket, money he works hard for, and deserves to keep. By blocking ads you are ensuring that this site won't survive for long. You will keep whining that the site has ads until he can't afford to run the site and either:
A) Sells it off to someone who will change the site to your dislike.
B) Make the site pay-2-play, so you will all have to pay.
C) Close the site in it's entirety.

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The future of ArmorGames due to Ad-Blockers.

You whine, but you pay nothing. If you were all ready to pay money yourselves, then complain, but if you don't like the idea of a pay to view website, you better expect a few ads. Think of the ads as your donation/fee to Dan to keep the site up, by blocking them you are trying to view the site without even paying the little minuscule entrance fee.

I don't mind ads, but now they are popping up in front of my screen and on the sides of the site! Normal ones are fine but they are now literally littering my screen to a point where I can't navigate the site.

Would you like to know who is to blame? Yourselves. This is a direct consequence of all you stupid kids who block ads, and lose Dan money.

Lets say it cost 10 dollars to run the site(it's not $10, but just as an example to explain). And the ads pay for let's say 11 dollars.
This 10 dollars goes to maintaining the site, and the extra dollar is put aside to save up and make the site even better. This comes to us as additional content or upgrades to the site/forum.

Now lets say that the ads pay for 11 usually, but now because people are blocking ads, he only gets 9 from them instead of 11. So this means he can't afford maintaining the site, let alone adding new things to it! How can this be? He will need to find a new way to make up for the 2 dollars he loses because of kids like you who block, and how does he do this? He compensates for the loss by making the other users who don't block, have even more ads. Annoying ads that appear on the sides and even over the site are there because he needs those to compensate for the loss of money generated by those who block ads. So not only are you making more ads appear by blocking, but you are making sure that he can't make enough money to update the site. You all complain new features never come on the site, and that is mainly because all the money that WOULD go to updating AG goes right into maintaining the normal site, due to losing money from blockers.

http://xjtian94.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/internet-advertising.jpg
Frontpage of Armorgames if enough people start blocking ads.

I hope you stupid kids semi understand this, so that you stop blocking the site. Because you are the main cause of it's lack of updates and increased ads. So unless you have a check ready to be payed to ArmorGames every month to ensure it staying up, I suggest you shut up and live with the ads.

P.S. I said stupid 6 times in this, almost a personal record.
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wipe42
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Thanks. Now im not so sad but still a little sad because the snow is going away.

TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

[quote]I heard the advertisers only pay per click. Is that true?


Pay for viewing, and in some instances, paying for clicking. This is why we stress to not have ad blocker and report the annoying and sexually-disturbing ads that pop up every now and then.[/quote]

If they pay for viewing, and thus keep track of site traffic, can they somehow filter out the visitors who are using ad blocker? And if they pay for clicking, and some people will never click the ads anyway, what difference would it make if they use ad blocker?

[quote]So do we actually have to click on the Ads every once in awhile for Dan to get money?


Yes.

There, now your question has been answered, as directly as possible.[/quote]

So now you're saying they definitely don't pay anything unless we click on them? Again, if that's the case, why does ad blocker make Dan lose money?

I don't use ad blocker. Just askin'.
wipe42
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So now you're saying they definitely don't pay anything unless we click on them? Again, if that's the case, why does ad blocker make Dan lose money?


Because if you do use Ad blocker then you can't click on Ads. Basically Armor Games can't pass go and get extra money.
TharosTheDragon
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So that's it? So you're saying it's not ad blocker that makes Dan lose money, it's not clicking ads that makes Dan lose money. That means if you're not clicking ads anyway, it doesn't make any difference whether or not you use ad blocker, right?

2014631
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There are some bad ads. But I know that you need ads to get money on the site.

Freakenstein
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If they pay for viewing, and thus keep track of site traffic, can they somehow filter out the visitors who are using ad blocker?


No program or feature can directly affect another's computer settings or affect what they use on said computer. We will just have to live with knowing that people use adblocker and flash blocker.

And if they pay for clicking, and some people will never click the ads anyway, what difference would it make if they use ad blocker?


Again, because Danny would never get money. Ads will never get shown (no money) and ads therefore will never be clicked (even more money not gained). AG controls what ads go through their website. If there's an ads that doesn't agree with you, contact them about it and they will solve it, provided it's within general reason.
speedygonzaliz
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if you don't like ads then ignore them and play the game and if you are to stupid to do that get off the computer and do these things A get a life B go to school and C...... um ignore ads

TharosTheDragon
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No program or feature can directly affect another's computer settings or affect what they use on said computer. We will just have to live with knowing that people use adblocker and flash blocker.


Who said anything about affecting their computer settings? I was talking about being able to detect whether or not people are using ad blocker, not changing that. If the advertisers pay for viewing and can't detect whether or not someone's using ad blocker then don't they still pay?

[quote]And if they pay for clicking, and some people will never click the ads anyway, what difference would it make if they use ad blocker?

Again, because Danny would never get money. Ads will never get shown (no money) and ads therefore will never be clicked (even more money not gained).[/quote]

You're ignoring my question completely. If the advertisers pay per click, Danny would never get money when people don't click whether or not they use ad blocker. So what's the difference?
Freakenstein
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There is no real difference. Ads are either paid to be viewed, paid to be clicked, or both. Ad blocker defeats this purpose and Danny gets no money from it.

TharosTheDragon
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So you're saying advertisers can detect if a user is using ad blocker and filter out those users when calculating site traffic? That's with regard to the scenario where they pay to be viewed.

Cenere
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Well, actually we can say it like this: If the ad is loaded on a page, we can assume it has been viewed. It doesn't matter if it has been looked at or not, it has been shown on the page, and thus there is a major chance that someone has seen it. With adblocker the image does not load on the page, thus there will be no record on it being viewed.

I am more miffed about how it matters if you have an adblocker or not if the ad has to be clicked. As far as I know, the only clicks that usually go through is by accidents or once in a while due to curiosity. If you are not going to click on it either way, it wouldn't matter if you has an adblocker or not.

wajor59
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I have a Mac and have a boat load of blockers. I still receive the ads shown on your site and this is my ?: When I crop the page to manually block the ads so that only the text I'm reading, or the game I'm playing is visible, is this why I'll get the message,"failed to open page", appears at the botom of AG's site page? Does anyone understand what I'm struggling to say?

TharosTheDragon
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@Cenere: Thanks. That first part makes sense. But then you say you're "miffed about how it matters if you have an adblocker or not" then you say "it wouldn't matter if you has an adblocker or not." Which is it?

@wajor59: You're asking for help with your ad blockers? I think this might be the wrong thread for that. Although I would suggest getting rid of the blockers and seeing if that solves your problem.

MrDayCee
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it is stupid to push them everywhere, even as pop ups. there are more ads on this site now than on the time, i joined AG(that was a year or more ago)


If I'm not mistaken about ads, it's purpose is to be seen in order for people to notice it, so that's why they 'op up' everywhere...
And the more ads since a year is only a matter of evolving to a higher level of income for AG...

It's still a necessary evil (if you want to call it that) to keep AG airbourne for the furute...
Amitkevincloskey
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I do not want ads to be completely banned, but at least there should be a limit to them.

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