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Klaushouse
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You are stupid.

Some of you stupid people do not understand how much money it costs to keep this site running. You have a even harder time understanding the complexity of Dan not having multiple money trees planted in his back yard beside his flying unicorns. Dan spends hundreds if not thousands making sure this site stays up and running for thousands of little children.

http://lh4.google.co.uk/charliechia/RwHQxG96fRI/AAAAAAAAAYo/od3WZw50cX4/s400/money_tree%20copy.jpg
This is not Dan, or his backyard.

Why do you like this site? Probably because it's very simple to register, join, login, play free games and talk to other kids. But this great and simple design didn't just appear. People were payed to design it, code it, and make so simple that a kid can come on and instinctively know what to do, making sure you have the best time possible, and this isn't cheap. At all. Not only does he pay coders/designers, but he pays game makers, quite substantial amounts of money to make the best games you all love. And he pays them a lot, if any of you pay attention you will know some people get thousands of dollars for a single game.

http://www.undeadreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/the_last_stand_2.jpg
This cost Dan thousands of dollars, and you pay $0 to play it.

But hey! All these great features, we must be paying a lot for this much free games, and user easy of access! How much? Oh wait nothing! But wait a second... let's do some off the top of my head math...

Dan + No User Fees = Expensive To Maintain Website

No that just doesn't sound around right. There must be a missing factor.

Dan + No User Fees + X = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now let's brain storm and see what X could be that keeps this site running, oh wait no I know, ads! So the equation goes like this:

Dan + No User Fees + Ads = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now in reality the equation is much more complex but we will keep it simple for you. But what happens if you take the ads away from the equation? It's like taking away the 4 from 4 + 2 = 6, it just won't make sense or work out. Which is why they exist.

http://tonova.typepad.com/thesuddencurve/images/2008/08/16/hillbilly.jpg
Average AG user trying to keep up with my math.

[quote]Don't worry guys, don't like ads? Use ad blocker! So cool!

Says 'Stupid Child A'
But aren't the ads there for a reason? Or why else would they be there?

Says 'Moderately Smart Child B'
Don't be stupid, ads are just there to annoy us, they don't mind if we block them, makes no difference!

Replies 'Stupid Child A'
Oh okay, I guess that makes sense Stupid Child A. Thanks for pointing that out to me, let's go whine about Sonny 3 and how it's taking forever just after Sonny 2 came out a week ago!

Says 'Recently Deemed Stupid Child B'
Yeah let's go!

Finishes 'Stupid Child A'[/quote]

By blocking ads to make your petty lives easier, you are making harder for Dan to keep the site running, because he gets less money because of it. You block ads and this makes him want to keep this site under his management less and less, because money will soon come out of his pocket, money he works hard for, and deserves to keep. By blocking ads you are ensuring that this site won't survive for long. You will keep whining that the site has ads until he can't afford to run the site and either:
A) Sells it off to someone who will change the site to your dislike.
B) Make the site pay-2-play, so you will all have to pay.
C) Close the site in it's entirety.

http://io9.com/assets/resources/2008/02/1984_movie_big_brother.jpg
The future of ArmorGames due to Ad-Blockers.

You whine, but you pay nothing. If you were all ready to pay money yourselves, then complain, but if you don't like the idea of a pay to view website, you better expect a few ads. Think of the ads as your donation/fee to Dan to keep the site up, by blocking them you are trying to view the site without even paying the little minuscule entrance fee.

I don't mind ads, but now they are popping up in front of my screen and on the sides of the site! Normal ones are fine but they are now literally littering my screen to a point where I can't navigate the site.

Would you like to know who is to blame? Yourselves. This is a direct consequence of all you stupid kids who block ads, and lose Dan money.

Lets say it cost 10 dollars to run the site(it's not $10, but just as an example to explain). And the ads pay for let's say 11 dollars.
This 10 dollars goes to maintaining the site, and the extra dollar is put aside to save up and make the site even better. This comes to us as additional content or upgrades to the site/forum.

Now lets say that the ads pay for 11 usually, but now because people are blocking ads, he only gets 9 from them instead of 11. So this means he can't afford maintaining the site, let alone adding new things to it! How can this be? He will need to find a new way to make up for the 2 dollars he loses because of kids like you who block, and how does he do this? He compensates for the loss by making the other users who don't block, have even more ads. Annoying ads that appear on the sides and even over the site are there because he needs those to compensate for the loss of money generated by those who block ads. So not only are you making more ads appear by blocking, but you are making sure that he can't make enough money to update the site. You all complain new features never come on the site, and that is mainly because all the money that WOULD go to updating AG goes right into maintaining the normal site, due to losing money from blockers.

http://xjtian94.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/internet-advertising.jpg
Frontpage of Armorgames if enough people start blocking ads.

I hope you stupid kids semi understand this, so that you stop blocking the site. Because you are the main cause of it's lack of updates and increased ads. So unless you have a check ready to be payed to ArmorGames every month to ensure it staying up, I suggest you shut up and live with the ads.

P.S. I said stupid 6 times in this, almost a personal record.
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TharosTheDragon
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I have no tolerance for ads, period.


Oh no! Ads! The bane of my existence!

How dare they put stuff on their website that isn't what I wanna look at? How dare they try to make money from letting me play their free games?

Gah, my eyes! I'm blind, and I'm suffocating to death! Curse those harmless ads! Curse those pretty pictures and silly animations! I just can't live through them!
wertpopetje
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i really hate the ads!
but if you cant handle it, go make your own site like this, try to keep it running for 1 week and then its dead lol.
if you dont like their way, just find another game site...

but i do think they could get a litter more away of the game

Fabio / wertopopetje

billadoid
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There are many scripts that block users with ad blockers enabled...
by searching google I got a result: http://adblockdetector.com/
I am a web developer and can create one hard to bypass dynamic script for armorgames, just ask me

FloydTC
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I am a web developer


prove it
TharosTheDragon
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I am a web developer and can create one hard to bypass dynamic script for armorgames, just ask me


That's a very kind offer. I'm wondering, though, are there any other things that you think you might be able to fix? I ask because another way to get people to stop using ad blockers would be to filter the ads themselves. There's a virus that's been showing up lately when you open a game in a new window that poses as an antivirus scan. It shows a popup about your computer being infected and when you close it the game window gets replaced with some big antivirus-looking screen that says it's scanning your computer.

Methinks we'll be needing someone to fix that. Getting rid of malicious ads could help keep the ad blockers at bay.
billadoid
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prove it

You can "see" the link of my avatar. Oops, my little pony?

That's a very kind offer. I'm wondering, though, are there any other things that you think you might be able to fix? I ask because another way to get people to stop using ad blockers would be to filter the ads themselves. There's a virus that's been showing up lately when you open a game in a new window that poses as an antivirus scan. It shows a popup about your computer being infected and when you close it the game window gets replaced with some big antivirus-looking screen that says it's scanning your computer.

Methinks we'll be needing someone to fix that. Getting rid of malicious ads could help keep the ad blockers at bay.

I agree with you TharosTheDragon. I have seen the ad you are talking about, it uses some simple javascript to do what it does. Still though, I haven't seen any malicious-like ads here at armorgames.
TharosTheDragon
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Still though, I haven't seen any malicious-like ads here at armorgames.


Armor Games is the only place I've seen them.
bazaar
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How dare they put stuff on their website that isn't what I wanna look at? How dare they try to make money from letting me play their free games?

They can do whatever they want and I've never said different, your bizarre tirade isn't really proving any point. I'm not sure what you want me to say. It seems like you've run out of legitimate reasons to complain about my opinions so you're just reducing what I've said to a weird caricature.
drummerdude7
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man you people are idiots klaus is right we don't want to lose the site and we want new games but if you block ads we'll never get new games

RenegadePlayer
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the add on the homepage (now at least) is an add for lords online. i started playing this game 2 years ago, that makes me 11. as an 11 year old in 6th grade, imagine if i were younger? maybe 8? i started playing on the computer at 8. the images in some of these ads would be WAY too much for an 8 year old. yes ads bring in revenue but really? are you stooping THATlow AG?

Stormcutter
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BTW do you like waffles?


yes we like waffles!
Btw: do u like pancakes?
Ithae
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Ithae
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Does Dan get money every time I click a different ad?

Freakenstein
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Legitimate reasons? You're going around acting like you're being somehow noble by blocking ads!


He thinks ads are actually annoying and doesn't feel like contributing, because of the fact that AG put them there in the first place. I gave up arguing with him.

Does Dan get money every time I click a different ad?


Another something I don't get. Is it also contributing by just having the ad there and viewed? Or is it just clicked and that's it?
TharosTheDragon
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Another something I don't get. Is it also contributing by just having the ad there and viewed? Or is it just clicked and that's it?


I still haven't gotten a straight answer about that. It really doesn't seem right to me that advertisers wouldn't have to pay anything for people to see their ads if they're not clicked.
random_player_of_ag
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[quote]Techdirt has given you permission to block their ads, but Armor Games hasn't



Wait.. since when does a site can forbid us from blocking ads?

Even if a site lets/doesn't let us, I'm the one who gets the final say, because I'm the one viewing/clicking the ads.

And if I wanted, I would block the ads and the site couldn't do sh*t about it.
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