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Kasic
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What really prompted this is an add that popped up while I was on this site, it had this IQ test thing, now I know those aren't official but the average was 85. That's 15 points below average. Now, to put this into perspective, your considered to be smart with an IQ of 110, that's just a 10 point change. It seems to me that so many things lately have been caused by, quite frankly, people just being stupid. Like when a person holds up a bank while he has a plastic bag over his head and doesn't cut airholes in the bag. Things like this make me wonder, are we truly getting smarter or are we going the opposite direction. From what i've read, studies show that people are becoming smarter, but is this true? Perhaps it's just that we know how the human mind works better than we used to, thus our education has been changed to fit how we learn. However, even when people pass a test or quiz in school, they forget the information by the next day. I have a very good example of this. In chemistry, we were learning polyatomic ions, and we took a quiz. The majority of the class did well. We retook the quiz the next day because our teacher really wants us to know about them and the majority of the class failed. Is temporairily memorizing something considered learning? Does anyone else have some examples or research that could help on this subject?

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EmperorPalpatine
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[OMG my mom took the computer when I was in the shower! Wow, those typos are terrible. Regretfully, I agree with the above statement.]

JohnGarell
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Peasant

They get lazier, but smarter. Just like me then!

shift4101
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Peasant

More arrogant, less ignorant.

HahiHa
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I honestly think there were a lot of arrogant people before too, I don't think this is a real trend. And people don't necessarily get smarter; they are better educated. Cultural knowledge grows fast, individual 'base' intelligence hasn't changed all too much even compared to ancient high cultures I guess.

shift4101
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I'm sure people were arrogant before, but what I said was that arrogance increases over time. I know plenty of people who absolutely believe certain ideas about the world that are just wrong. (Take the war in the middle east for example. My dad really thinks they are hellbound on starting WWIII)

partydevil
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arrogance doesn't increases over time.
one's arrogance is only less or more then other's

and arrogance is a big part of being ignorand

shift4101
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Arrogance: Thinking you know more than you really do.

Ignorant: The lack of knowledge in a particular field.

Everyone who is arrogant is ignorant, but not everyone who is ignorant is arrogant.

I'm simply saying that from what I have observed, people seem to think they know a lot more than others.

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I've not seen this trend of arrogance and quite frankly I think the form of pride / confidence in one self is almost perfect for most people I meet.

Ignorance? Ouch, now that's a different subject entirely and usually show a large scale of arrogance - sadly I don't just speak for the rare yet vocal internet troll.

- H

partydevil
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people seem to think they know a lot more than others.

evry1 has knowlets about something. it's just what the topic is.
what i know on 1 topic that you don't. you will know something on a other that i don't know.
partydevil
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Everyone who is arrogant is ignorant


this is in contradiction whit your earlyer statement of

More arrogant, less ignorant.
shift4101
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Peasant

The second quote was a direct response to the title of the topic. The first one is true. Logically true.

partydevil
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Jester

The second quote was a direct response to the title of the topic. The first one is true. Logically true.


what BS your talking about?

it's not a direct response to the title.
the title is about becoming smarter and less smart.
what you talked about was arrogance and ignorance.

arrogance and ignorance has nothing to do whit how smart some1 is.

your just trying to crawl out of your contradicting comments.
shift4101
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Peasant

Oh my god. I think you are literally an idiot. I try not to judge, but you just don't listen, in any topic we have a discussion in.

I READ THIS IN THE ORIGINAL POST:

From what i've read, studies show that people are becoming smarter, but is this true?


My response?

More arrogant, less ignorant.


That is a direct response to the title.

Now, you say here:

arrogance and ignorance has nothing to do whit how smart some1 is.


And this is an example of: Arrogance. The world so far has decided the best way to measure how bright someone is is by seeing how much they know (SAT's, General Information tests, and pretty much the entire school system.) If your ignorant, you probably won't do too well in any of those 3 examples I provided. And if someone is failing Chem A, are they said to be smart? No.

I still don't understand how I contradicted myself. I don't even think I did.

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partydevil
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Jester

I still don't understand how I contradicted myself. I don't even think I did.


think logic
destruction101
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I think that the issue here is that because of our modern society things have become easier most machines do the work for us. And because of this we do not need to learn how to do something when there is already an efficient way. Think about it the society is cut into 3 sections inventors active participants, and leaders but some of us fall out of that and those people are the dumb ones.

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