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PossibleInstability
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What are your views on hunting animal for sport? Do you consider it a sport? Do you even consider it justifiable?

I, for one, do not support hunting at all. It is a "sport" that involves luring an unknowing animal to a certain location (via scents, calls, bait, etc.), setting up a rifle that is bound to kill the animal with little to no risk of you being seen or injured, waiting, then killing. I mean, besides the single shot you take on an unsuspecting, usually motionless animal is the only thing you could possibly f*ck up. It's no more a sport than putting cheese on a mouse trap, or hitting a fly with a newspaper.

Yet because you're killing things that could potentially harm you if managed to be stupider than a downy chimp hitting itself with a brick, it's considered a sport. I mean, if MMA consisted of one guy being chained you the cage and the other guy cutting his head of with a sword, it wouldn't be considered a sport, it would be murder. The only possible way hunting could ever be a "sport" is if the hunter went unarmed into the forest while naked, attacked a deer/bear/moose/animal larger than a badger with his bare hands and managed to come out victorious. Now, you're saying "But that isn't fair, the other animal would kill him". DAMN RIGHT IT WOULD! And you know why? Cause we aren't supposed to be killing them!

Please note, this is about hunting for game, not for survival.

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xyishere
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In West Virginia, where I live, the deer population is so large that it is LEGGAL to kill deer in your backyard or any other place inside or outside the city limits without a tag! I feel that in that situation it is ok to kill animals without eating them because it causes other living plants and animals to suffer to the point where they no longer live in their natural areas. That is one of the only situations that I feel hunting should be supported or executed.

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Oh sorry I ment legal.

EnterOrion
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if you ask me hunters should go to hell.


See you there.

Plus, there's a big difference between keeping the antlers cause you have nothing else to do with them and killing an animal, and only taking the antlers.


What about using the antlers as one of the reasons to?

People leave the carcasses to rot.


I believe that's against the rules, and the rules in hunting for sport are usually laws.

You have to do something with the body. You can't just shoot it and go on your merry way.
PossibleInstability
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What about using the antlers as one of the reasons to?


Yes, but not the ONLY reason.

You can't just shoot it and go on your merry way.


Yes you can, you're just not supposed to.
EnterOrion
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Yes, but not the ONLY reason.


Sure, fine.

Yes you can, you're just not supposed to.


Point taken.
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Hunting to me is cruel. Killing an animal who has never done any harm to others is sick. If you leave them alone they'l leave you alone. I understand killing animals so you could eat, but killing animals for fun? That's very disgusting to me.

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As long as you kill something while hunting, you had better use it because otherwise it was a waste. I don't really care about it that much, although I wouldn't consider it a sport, more of a how patient/good at not making noise you are.


Hunting to me is cruel. Killing an animal who has never done any harm to others is sick.


How can you be cruel to something that has no cognitive thought. It has no conception of wrong, right, fair or even general kindness. All it knows is instinctual survival. So, technically, it isn't cruel.
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I agree, hunting is stupid, come on humans, evolve! Killing gives you those happy chemicals but I think you can manage without such brute necessities. If you are hunting for food, (America, put your hands down) and it is a necessity of survival then go ahead, but killing is not a sport. God gave us animals, but that doesn't mean killing them is what he intended for us to do.

I'll be honest with you, I hunt even though I hate to kill anything, but if my family needs me to kill something I will do it.

Justified, any other reason, nope.
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Remember that this is not talking about hunting for survival, nor poaching.

There's nothing wrong with hunting for sport, within reason. The current restrictions that the US has are just fine, they're generally followed, and they don't allow any species to get over- or under- populated.

It isn't the most skill-filled sport, but not everyone can do it, and it's really not easy. Deer that are generally used to dealing with hunters don't really just walk right in front of you unless you really know how to disguise into your environment.

And, as long as most the parts are used -- the meat either made or sold, fur used or sold, antlers hung or sold -- there's really nothing substantial to complain about.

EnterOrion
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It isn't the most skill-filled sport,


Taking shots from half a mile isn't easy.

Thus people get too close and ruin it.

evolve!


Killing is too much fun.

God gave us animals, but that doesn't mean killing them is what he intended for us to do.


God gave us (and everything else) animals for no reason. We aren't any different from anything else but going a little overboard. Certain cases of mass slaughter for entertainment are quite unneeded, but for the most part we can hunt for sport and not have it drastically affect anything.
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Evolution made us the top of the food chain, its nateral to kill. Thats a simple fact. And, im an aithiest so the
god thing doesen't work here. I haven't had time yet to read the rest of your arguement

German3945
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Taking shots from half a mile isn't easy.

Thus people get too close and ruin it.

and therefore the sport does not have much skill attached.

Re: morality:
How can you be cruel to something that has no cognitive thought. It has no conception of wrong, right, fair or even general kindness. All it knows is instinctual survival. So, technically, it isn't cruel.

Very true.

It's a game of trying to out-do the other animal's instinct using knowledge and skill since we do not have substantial instinct.
(Some skill, just to reiterate, it's not easy but it's not incredibly hard.)

Re: "God gave us animals, but that doesn't mean killing them is what he intended for us to do."
German3945
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Oops.
That last part....

God gave us animals, but that doesn't mean killing them is what he intended for us to do.

Let's not drag this into a religious argument.

We have plenty of active religious threads right now.
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