As someone who has spent over 13 years in the public education system (pre k - 12th grade), I am very interested in the effects that this has had on me. Therefore, I ask this question: What kind of person does the public school system create?
You should consider: 1) The severity of the effect of this system, 2) If it is different from other systems' effects (IE homeschool, private school), and 3) The different ways different kinds of students can be affected. You should NOT talk about how mean or annoying your teachers are unless you think your teachers are a good representation of the average teacher. This is meant to be a discussion about public school in general. This is a fairly important topic, seeing as there are almost 50 million students enrolled in public schools in the U.S.
It creates a stupid, unintelligent and obedient student with no critical thinking skills and no intent to question the world. They keep you busy with the dumbest of assignments and fill your head with unimportant information you will forget next year.
It is not the public school system that makes people who they are. Depending on the school, it can offer a good education (like my school ) or a bad one (like IPS).
Well, you weren't. Even if you were from Singapore or China or some other super-education-focused country, you wouldn't be ready for college by 1st grade. The only person ever legitimately ready for college by 1st grade was Kim Ung-yong, lol.
Well, the public school system only helps my overly inflated egotistical mannerisms and creates a narcissist out of me.
Just kidding, but honestly, the dipsh*ts that I deal with every day make me want to slam my head into a wall until I'm comatose.
As for the education, my school has a set of tiers that one can go to (1-4, 1 lowest) for higher education. Of course, I'm stuck in tier 1 do to problems with the whole enrollment thing. Only so many of course, so I will have to wait a while.
Tier 1 is where the idiots are at, tier 4 is where the arrogant pricks are. Makes me sad.
I find it highly unlikely than ANY of us are ready for college beyond the community college in some hick town. We may be the most intelligent people on Earth, but we lack maturity in several critical areas. We may think of ourselves as mature, but some kinds really need more experience than anything up to 10th grade can offer.
When I student taught, I told my students to question me all the time. I told them to never agree with me and to check my facts. I had no problem giving good grades to students who did not agree with me as long as they did the work. I am also giving them alternative interpretations of history. Not just the pro-American side.
Thankfully, many new history teachers are doing this.
1. Traditional homework and grading systems ahve failed, and encourage competition more than competence, leaving losers behind.
2. There is no standard for teachers, so most of them are crap.
3. Standardisation of information is contrary to rapidly growing information theory, making a senior graduate entirely unequipped for the vast real world.
4. Education values have not changed in 20 years, thus schools entirely lack technology cirriculum.
5. Certification Programs have replaced actual proven job skills, making higher education almost counter intuitive, but necessary. This makes money for deans, but screws over students.
I could go on and on. There's a stagnation in public education for so many reasons, it's unlikely it'll ever get fixed.
Privatised education would save the USA, but it simply won't happen as long as we have the libtards blindly hacking our political discourse with a machete while wearing a padded helmet. (Keep in mind I'm a Left Libertarian, I'm simply talking about the tea-baggers).
That's why we almost got married a few months ago, remember? WE got Yakooza to do the floral arrangements and everything.
In public schools you will have to learn to cope with all kinds of people who wouldn't be found in some private schools.
So you're saying it's good to be socially sheltered throughout your childhood? In public schools, you'll have to learn to cope with all kinds of people who're later gonna be out in the real world with other real people like you.
That's one thing public school has over private school for the most part.
students who's schools don't provide challenging classes.
I guess my middle school is speshul then. *is in accelerated classes for every subject*
For instance, my highschool requires a certain amount of math credits, but doesn't specify which classes you have to take. This means that people who have no interest in math end up taking classes like informal geometry, which is essentially a semester of color by numbers. But maybe these people ARE interested in writing, but can't take a second writing class because that period is already taken up by geometry.
While this can be a problem, it's done for a good reason: so you have a diverse skill set for college and you aren't pigeonholed into taking bad classes/classes that'll get you jack in the real world.
then they will probably become quite bitter. So while public schools might not produce idiots, they do tend to breed a sarcastic mentality of pessimism.
That's conjecture and a bit of a stretch.
1. Traditional homework and grading systems ahve failed, and encourage competition more than competence, leaving losers behind.
2. There is no standard for teachers, so most of them are crap.
3. Standardisation of information is contrary to rapidly growing information theory, making a senior graduate entirely unequipped for the vast real world.
4. Education values have not changed in 20 years, thus schools entirely lack technology cirriculum.
5. Certification Programs have replaced actual proven job skills, making higher education almost counter intuitive, but necessary. This makes money for deans, but screws over students.
Wow, I must go to a really, really, really, really good public school.
The reason why the education system is flawed is because of NCLB. It sets up regulations that are impossible to meet. Is it fair to judge teachers based on how well their students do on standardized tests? Remember that every student has to take the test whether or nto they can read it or even comprehend it. That is like judging farmers on the kind of milk their cows produce. I recommend you read No Cow left Behind to see how horrible NCLB is. Now you also have to add in the fact that schools have to meet these standards to get money from the federal government. If a school tries to do what they want, they get money taken away from them by Congress and it is impossible to run without that federal money. Plus NCLB as a whole is underfunded. If most counties don't have enough revenue they furlough teachers instead of look for other means to cut spending.
Schools are handcuffed by these standards. You have to have certain scores in math and reading, so they push math, science, and English. NCLB and the government is to blame for students not knowing social studies, technology, and such, not the teachers and schools.
You know have the federal government wanting to establish nation wide standards that will be met. Basically, students in Florida will have to meet the same standards as students in Texas, as students in new York, as students in Alaska and so on and so on.
So you're saying it's good to be socially sheltered throughout your childhood? In public schools, you'll have to learn to cope with all kinds of people who're later gonna be out in the real world with other real people like you.
I just realized I worded that wrong. I meant to say that this increased the quality of public schools, not decreased it. My bad.
While this can be a problem, it's done for a good reason: so you have a diverse skill set for college and you aren't pigeonholed into taking bad classes/classes that'll get you jack in the real world.
Well, the class I was referring to does not actually teach anything. This might be a better example: Everyone in my state is required to take a class called AK studies. In this class, you learn the history of the state of Alaska. I have lived here for 15 years, and have already had to take multiple classes on this subject in middle school. So far, we have watched a tourist video and have colored some maps. You can take the class online, but you can't test out. Furthermore, next year I will go to college out of state. It is entirely possibly that I will never live in Alaska again. The same goes for most other college bound students. So why do we take this class? It teaches us something we already know about a subject we will never think about again.
I guess my middle school is speshul then. *is in accelerated classes for every subject*
In highschool, the most challenging classes you will find are AP classes (as far as I know). They are supposed to be college level, but are not. I spend most of my time in these classes programming a text-based RPG onto my graphing calculator. Additionally, the "last" biology class you can take is AP Bio. There isn't an AP microbiology, or AP Evolution, or AP Ecology. If you take AP Bio as a sophmore, that's it. There isn't a harder biology class to take. If you want to take another science class, you can take AP chem or AP Physics. But it is entirely possible that neither of these will interest you (although AP chem does build a nice scientific foundation for the other studies).
