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tehpwner
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let me know what you think (BTW, i think the answer is obvious)

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Green12324
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I personally think that he is the worst American president till date 1!


Why?
hojoko
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To me, it seems as if he's a much better orator than President. He made promises that he couldn't fulfill, and yet he was so convincing.

Qualities you look for in a salesman, not the leader of the free world.

CommanderDude7
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I think judgement must be withheld until his term in office is over to say yay or nay about this president.

Roger721
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Economically speaking, Obama spent all the american funds and now made the stock exchanges on the whole world to suffer!

According to a brazilian journal, Obama's recently approved economical plan made the brazilian stock exchange have the worst rating on two years! What's going on with him? He was fine on the beginning, but now?

partydevil
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Obama spent all the american funds and now made the stock exchanges on the whole world to suffer!


your debt already went rocketing when bush started his 2nd 4 years period. it's not obamas fault. but it is obamas fault that he didn't saw this coming sooner.

stock exchanges on the whole world do not suffer. sure those that are busy on the american market are. but those that have nothing to do whit the usa aint suffering from the debt.
Roger721
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stock exchanges on the whole world do not suffer. sure those that are busy on the american market are. but those that have nothing to do whit the usa aint suffering from the debt.


Yeah. But did you heard about his last economic plan? Anti-defeault, or something. The brazilian stock market went "kaput" and prices rised.

A dollar used to cost 3x my country's currency. Now it costs 1.5x only.

I bet that the number of stock exchanges that did not suffered because that last measure is next to 0: America's economy is the greatest in the world. Every country is somehow related to it.
Roger721
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Sorry for DP, but I forgot to mention this:

your debt already went rocketing when bush started his 2nd 4 years period. it's not obamas fault. but it is obamas fault that he didn't saw this coming sooner.


True. Bush ruined the US's economy. It's sure thing that Obama didn't had any guilt on that.

(I saw on a magazine that Bush's popularity was only better than the popularity of Nixon [because of that Watergate issue].)
Iliketehpie
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No ones perfect jeez you cant expect a leader of a country to do perfect..hes only one man and its hard to run a country
lol how would i know i live in canada eh?

Roger721
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I didn't said he was awful... I said he didn't suceeded to fix the US's troubles after "Mr. Bushy".

lol how would i know i live in canada eh?


I live in Brazil but know what Obama's doing... from the media, but...
partydevil
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The brazilian stock market went "kaput" and prices rised.


what do you mean by "kaput" did there money go up or down?

America's economy is the greatest in the world. Every country is somehow related to it.


your forgetting that other countrys are just waiting for there money from you. you have to pay them anyway. and as you stated by yourself befor. "Bush ruined the US's economy" it's not realy that great anymore. countrys like china and brazil are getting much more importend because that is where the future is. those countrys are economicly getting beter by the day.
(that why i wonder if they went down or up. you maybe got a news link or something for me because it wasn't importend enoufg to be showen on our news show on tv.)

also are stock exchanges mostly for companys to get money on a prety easy way. aslong those companys and their moneylenders are not working on the american market. there is no way they are affected by it. and the majority of the companys in the world or not in that market.
partydevil
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i c you are from brazil,

i said you in my last comment i ment usa whit that =)

swagman
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Heck no he's not!He's not that good either.He's in the middle somehow but I can't explain.

EmperorPalpatine
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what do you mean by "kaput" did there money go up or down?

I think he meant their stock market crashed and the prices of goods increased greatly.
Armed_Blade
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Obama spent all the american funds and now made the stock exchanges on the whole world to suffer!

He spent other people's funds, it was all debt.
To be fair, he spent 2.4T, and Bush 6.4T, with the rest of the debt coming from Mandatory spending [Social Security, Welfaire, Unemployment, Medicare, Medicaid, Etc.]

A dollar used to cost 3x my country's currency. Now it costs 1.5x only.


You should look up the history of your currency. Simply reading wikipedia on the Brazilian real explains how the actual Real was pegged at 1.1 to a dollar. Following years of apparent economic distress, it actually undervalued to 2:1, and then 4:1 -- The rebound of the Brazilian economy has left it at 1.5.
So, in fact, even with the recession in the US, the Brazilian Real had trouble catching up to its previous losses, and is now making a comeback. If current trends continue [US down, Real up] -- the Real would meet its peg marker once more.

it's not realy that great anymore.

As a quarter of the world's GDP, I fail to see how you can say that. Not being arrogant, but let's not twist the facts.

countrys like china and brazil are getting much more importend because that is where the future is. those countrys are economicly getting beter by the day.


China is getting rich, but it is no where near tied to the Fiscal world as America is. It does not serve as a bank. No country really wants to invest in Communism, China is much more tied to the world in terms of manufacturing and crediting than it is in acting as a fiscal reserve.
As for Brazil, it is a large South American economy, but in terms of geopolitics there are others in front even though the country, currently, is very stable and not to mention eco-friendly, it looks like a great place to be.
partydevil
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China is getting rich, but it is no where near tied to the Fiscal world as America is. It does not serve as a bank. No country really wants to invest in Communism,


like i said they are the future. doesn't mean they are at that level already. but if your a invester then those 2 countrys are the place to be.
you say no country wants to invest in communism. this is absolutly not true. 4 out of 5 dutch banks invest in china. china is 1 of the beter countrys to trade whit.
they are fair people.
just don't bother whit their issues. and sofar i know usa always wants to bother whit other countrys issues. so the chinese aint that friendly anymore towards the usa. and all right they have.

anyway i was not here to discus these things whit you. i'm more intrested in what roger721 has to tell about the brazilian market.
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