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DrElmer
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We all know that Barack Obama is half-black, and is called the first black president of America. What is neglected is the fact that he is also half-white, yet he is never referred to as the 44th white president. He is just as much white as he is black, so why is he never referred to as white when he is referred to as black?

This is not meant to be racist at all. Just something that has been puzzling me for a while.

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KMRaider
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Obama is Mulatto get it right.


Were you kidding? If not, maybe you should read the article before you link it.

From the Wiki 'Mulatto' Page:

"Although still in use, in the last half century the term mulatto has fallen out of favor among some people and may be considered offensive by some in the United States.[citation needed] Note that President Barack Obama is never referred to as mulatto, although he had a white American mother and a black Kenyan father, and is the first non-white president of the United States. Today the preferred terms are generally biracial, multiracial, and multiethnic."
adios194
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Why don't we just leave it at the fact that racism is an ignorant was for someone to put another person down based on ethnicity.

balerion07
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Barack Obama is never referred to as mulatto


That was the best part of the site. I think they need to cite that as I have heard him called mulatto MANY MANY times.
Ernie15
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This is the line I found most interesting in the wikipedia article:

and is the first non-white president of the United States


This just proves the point of this entire thread that most people in fact do not see that Obama is just as much a "white" man as he is a "black" man. Just because he is not fully "white" makes him "non-white"? I don't think that's correct at all. You can't just eliminate one half of your ethnicity to use the other half to your advantage. Well, you can, and Obama did, but it just isn't right.

Also, if you compare him to his wife and daughters, he is, ethnically, the least "black" member of his family.
KMRaider
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This just proves the point of this entire thread that most people in fact do not see that Obama is just as much a "white" man as he is a "black" man. Just because he is not fully "white" makes him "non-white"? I don't think that's correct at all. You can't just eliminate one half of your ethnicity to use the other half to your advantage. Well, you can, and Obama did, but it just isn't right.


He didn't 'eliminate one half of his ethnicity,' everyone knew he was part white. And truthfully, what's so bad about using things to your advantage. You wouldn't have done the same?
KMRaider
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That was the best part of the site. I think they need to cite that as I have heard him called mulatto MANY MANY times.


Yeah, you're right. I think they say that because it's 'olitically incorrect' because some consider it a derogatory term.
Ernie15
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He didn't 'eliminate one half of his ethnicity,' everyone knew he was part white.


Then why is he being referred to as "non-white"? He isn't "non-white", he is half "black" and half "white". "Non-white" implies that he is not "white" at all.
KMRaider
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Then why is he being referred to as "non-white"? He isn't "non-white", he is half "black" and half "white". "Non-white" implies that he is not "white" at all.


I get what you're saying by what it implies, but he is a "non-white."

I think it basically comes down to history, anyone with even a small amount of black in them was still considered black. If a person was an eighth black he was still labeled as being black. Even now, a person that is an eighth black can call themselves black in surveys or when applying for things.
Ernie15
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anyone with even a small amount of black in them was still considered black.


I'm not saying Obama is not "black", because he clearly is. What I'm saying is is that people shouldn't forget that he is "white", although it seems most people already have.
KMRaider
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I'm not saying Obama is not "black", because he clearly is. What I'm saying is is that people shouldn't forget that he is "white", although it seems most people already have.


Yeah, that makes sense.
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Obama is not white at all, the only white on him are his hands, the terms of white and black are appearance, so being half white half black is easier than saying the place where the white parent came from but isn't proper. obama is black bec. of his appearance, and no matter what kind of heritage he is he is black skinned. Not racist just observing his skin color, so when people say he is the first black pres. it is bec. he has black skin, other pres. have had black heritage in them but where considered 100% white bec. of their skin.

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pigment of skin really that bad? Blacks are actually at less harm in the sun.

Heck yea thats why the live in the South!!

Anyways, I think Obama has to be 100% African American in order to be considered the first Black president. And I'm going to stand by that unless someone proves to me otherwise!
adios194
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Then why is he being referred to as "non-white"? He isn't "non-white", he is half "black" and half "white". "Non-white" implies that he is not "white" at all.

This is true. Why is he only referred to as black, not mixed?
I get what you're saying by what it implies, but he is a "non-white."

How? He's half-white.
Even now, a person that is an eighth black can call themselves black in surveys or when applying for things.

They can call themselves black, but they aren't they are mixed.
Obama is not white at all

What are you talking about? He's half white.
Anyways, I think Obama has to be 100% African American in order to be considered the first Black president.

This is my view also. He should be considered the first mixed president, not the first black president. Only a 100% black president should be considered the first black president.
KMRaider
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How? He's half-white.

They can call themselves black, but they aren't they are mixed.


You just answered this, he's mixed, not white isn't he?


This is my view also. He should be considered the first mixed president, not the first black president. Only a 100% black president should be considered the first black president.


But as you say, he is white. So he can be considered black, can he not?
Dubness2
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This is my view also. He should be considered the first mixed president, not the first black president. Only a 100% black president should be considered the first black president.

Yea! They should be considered the first MIXED president. That would be a lot better. Also it would be more politically correct since the government is all about that now days.
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