If you actually know of what it will do for you, what do you think about it?
Personally, I believe it is about time this happened. I am an asthmatic, so I need to have insurance to help pay for the medications I need to keep myself healthy. It qualifies as a Preexisting condition, so because of the reform, I can get Blue Cross Blue Shield.
I honestly think some points of the bill is good, but I also think there are bad points to this bill. I honestly wish there was more of a general yay consensus in congress though. I mean health care is a big part of our economy and our economy is fragile at the moment. But I'm willing to accept it.
I also think it separated this country a little bit. I mean so many people were still against it. Yes, I''m talking mainly about Republicans, but they should also have a voice and not smothered. They are US citizens too. I mean the bill should have some republican made policies in it. I know they are the minority, but it'll make our country that more unified.
For wwwwaayyy too many months Democrats had both hands reached out to the GOP, trying to make this a bipartisan effort. Obama and the heads of this bill gave so much to the republicans that it made the most democratic people mad -- even MSNBC!
the bill should have some republican made policies in it
It has plenty, and don't let a single republican fool you about that. They were being handed everything on this bill, threw damn near everything the dem's did to try to make this bipartisan straight in their face and still cried over it being "artisan politics" and said that the Democrats did whatever they wanted. If the Democrats had done whatever they wanted this bill would have been passed six months ago.
I can't believe how republicans acted. I can't imagine anyone who kept an eye on this bill not remembering how badly Obama and leaders were trying to pull the republicans in to get bipartisan effort in this bill. They got some, but mostly they got republicans trying to slow down the bill as much as possible.
The piece of crap is too dam* long. But that's beside the point.
I say a good amount of it is good, but the other thousand or so pages are crap, and more hurtful than helpful. We've been needing health care reform for a very long time, and it is due time that we acquired it. However, much of it is either overkill, useless, or just plain bad. A lot of it, in retrospect, is good, and a good amount is irrelevant or filler to what it was trying to accomplish.
I'm neutral. I say it's the companies that supply it that should be the ones forced to pay, rather than many of the companies, both large and small, that should pay for it. Many of them are incapable of supplying it, and will more than likely collapse. This bill increased our recession far longer. If we wouldn't have had our economy collapse, it would have been okay, but now is a very bad time. Very bad indeed.
I don't think now is too bad of a time under any circumstances.
A few things to EnterOrion:
How was the extra length hurtful? Most bills are extremely long, this one needed it to get passed if I'm not mistaken (deals w/ swaying Dem's). But which parts of the extra were bad and how?
Second, I don't see how it increased our recession longer. Sure, there will be more taxes, but the budget will be balanced out so that there is about a proportional increase in government spending, which will actually stimulate the economy. Because...
Multipliers are observed and accepted amounts for how much increases in (taxes, government spending) will affect the economy. Tax Multiplier is 4, and Spending (gov't spending) Multiplier is 5. This means that if the government taxes one million dollars more and spends one million dollars more, they will (1) decrease the economy by 4 million (4 * million, tax segment) and (2) increase the economy by 5 million (5 * million, for spending) and ultimately stimulate the economy.
How was the extra length hurtful? Most bills are extremely long, this one needed it to get passed if I'm not mistaken (deals w/ swaying Dem's). But which parts of the extra were bad and how?
It's abnormally long. It's far longer than could have been read. The only way any one of the 300,000,000 of us will get to know the bill without totally frying our brains in the process is the hard way, by finding out when it comes around. I've gotten a glimpse at some of the older versions, and they are insanely filled with repeating and rewording. No loopholes, that's for dam* sure.
Second, I don't see how it increased our recession longer. Sure, there will be more taxes, but the budget will be balanced out so that there is about a proportional increase in government spending, which will actually stimulate the economy
I'm not at all worried about taxes. The extra $200 or so we'll all be paying isn't going to negatively hurt anyone. It's not going to help, but it won't hurt.
I'm worried about the effect this will have upon the companies that will pay for it. I don't care how rich or evil some of the lefties think that large companies are, people do still work for them, and in enormous numbers. The companies will inevitably have to scale back, and many (including small companies) will completely break the bank. It's astronomically expensive to maintain above average health care, and the kind being called for and the way it will be implemented will cause problems.
Lay offs are 100% certain.
LOL I like how 13 year olds are talking about this which doesn't really concern them yet.
I honestly hate people like you. We do grow up some day. This isn't Peter Pan. The things enacted now, the next generation pays for. That's how politics work. What one generation does, the next pays for. Is that too hard to swallow?
It's abnormally long. It's far longer than could have been read. The only way any one of the 300,000,000 of us will get to know the bill without totally frying our brains in the process is the hard way, by finding out when it comes around. I've gotten a glimpse at some of the older versions, and they are insanely filled with repeating and rewording. No loopholes, that's for dam* sure.
This is why all other important bills, like health care, are long. It just covered the loopholes like everything else we pass.
I'm worried about the effect this will have upon the companies that will pay for it. I don't care how rich or evil some of the lefties think that large companies are, people do still work for them, and in enormous numbers. The companies will inevitably have to scale back, and many (including small companies) will completely break the bank. It's astronomically expensive to maintain above average health care, and the kind being called for and the way it will be implemented will cause problems.
not necessarily. Insurance companies get gigantic profits. Unless they wish to keep their profits instead of just allowing them to drop to a slightly less astronomical number, then that's on the company more than the bill. Yes, there will be a loss of revenue that will lower their profits but they'll still get nice profits that they don't have to worry about.
There'll probably be some layoffs, but those workers could easily go to the government jobs that will be opening up for it. The influx of gov't health care workers (telephone-salesman, searching for those w/o health care, managing health care files and payments) will even the economic affect, if not boost the economy.
I like how 13 year olds are talking about this which doesn't really concern them yet.
You 14-year-olds are so arrogant these days.
The extra $200 or so we'll all be paying isn't going to negatively hurt anyone. It's not going to help, but it won't hurt.
It's bound to help someone, otherwise they wouldn't add it in the first place. Some people actually need that extra $200, so it's also bound to hurt someone.
not necessarily. Insurance companies get gigantic profits. Unless they wish to keep their profits instead of just allowing them to drop to a slightly less astronomical number, then that's on the company more than the bill. Yes, there will be a loss of revenue that will lower their profits but they'll still get nice profits that they don't have to worry about.
The insurance companies aren't paying for it. It's everyone else. The companies that are receiving it pay. I'm not going to pay you for selling my house.
The insurance companies aren't paying for it. It's everyone else. The companies that are receiving it pay. I'm not going to pay you for selling my house.
The insurance companies will have some loss of revenue. Prices WILL go down, and they will suffer. They won't have losses under any circumstances, but they won't make as much money and they will probably fire people.
