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whyismynametom
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Racial Profiling
i am all for it, but first hear me out.
Lets say a new race of people pops up in the world and their skin is the color blue ok. Now 90% of these "blue" people like to hurt others by means of slapping or hitting. Now you see a blue person walk up to you. You are probably going to defend yourself against the blue man, even though you don't know him personally. This is racial profiling. It is based off of statistics, if you look statistically at Arizona and the race of the illegals it will be overweeningly Mexican, so to be efficient in their quest to remove illegals they will more likely check a Mexican. And a cop has the right to go up to anyone and ask them for their papers.(another argument stated that a law is in affect for cops to ask for papers to prove your a legal citizen)

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Asherlee
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How is this different than the topic on the Arizona Immigration Law where the conversation is mostly about racial profiling?

To address you, this "blue people" analogy does not stand. There is no relevance. We do not have a single race on this planet where 90% of them are violent. In fact, that is just absurd.

I'm guessing you're white.

Asherlee
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Side note: the last comment should be noted in sarcastic manner, given the topic name.

CB4
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Before you read my post, I want everybody to know that I am NOT racist, I do not think any differently just because they are black, native, Asian, or part of any other racial minority.


It really depends, there is no one statement you can use to blanket every situation, but I see it like this.

I read a book a while back called "Surviving on the Streets". It is a book on how to survive should you ever become homeless,it was written by a (white male)man who had been homeless for 15+ years. One of the chapters in his book talked about how society in general got all worked up if he even though about mentioning that people with a dark skin couler were any different than any other person. He talked about, how where he lived, something like 75% of street crimes, mugging, assaulting and things like that were done by people with African American heritage. His point was that, if all races want to be treated equally, all races should act equally.

Also, just about every person on this site profiles based on race to some extent. If your walking alone in the dark and a group of young black men walk towards you, then you are going to react differently than if a number of elderly Asian ladies are walking towards you.

That's my say, If people want to be treated the same as everyone else, then they should act the same as everyone else. Now, I'm not actually saying I think differently of people just by their skin couler, but the fact remains, some people do act differently.

Also, I am white, sue me.

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Also, just about every person on this site profiles based on race to some extent. If your walking alone in the dark and a group of young black men walk towards you, then you are going to react differently than if a number of elderly Asian ladies are walking towards you.

You will act differently if a group of young Asian men walked towards you, than elderly black ladies.
I would not be scared based on skin colour, I would be scared based on how they act, although I could be wrong, because I don't live near any black/Asian people, my community is entirely white and Indian.
skater_kid_who_pwns
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A better example perhaps, then these blue people, is if your in a bad neiborhood, and a few black guys walk towards you. Your proably gonna freak out. Just beacuse there black.

whyismynametom
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A better example perhaps, then these blue people, is if your in a bad neiborhood, and a few black guys walk towards you. Your proably gonna freak out. Just beacuse there black.

i was trying to remain neutral
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A better example perhaps, then these blue people, is if your in a bad neiborhood, and a few black guys walk towards you. Your proably gonna freak out. Just beacuse there black.


I understand that we all have stereotypes to some extent, but in a bad neighborhood, I'm going to be nervous no matter the race of the few guys. It's a bad neighborhood.
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Its true, though more thrue history then thrue skin relevence. For example, the reason for maney claims of black skined people having higher crime rate may be do to the fact that the race was once inslaved in this aria, and when the slaves were free they were givin nothing and expected to make it without a job or any money. Thus they passed along the poverty. Then the black race would have less money thus be more likly to commet crimes. It is just a thory, but if the statistics are correct then I find it very likly.

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We do not have a single race on this planet where 90% of them are violent. In fact, that is just absurd.


Yes we do. It's called the human race.

I'm against racial profiling. Period. Legitimate cause or secondary reasoning is all that stands.

Don't just go up to somebody of another race for no reason and arrest them or defend yourself or whatever. If it's in the course of another encounter (such as being pulled over) then checking doesn't hurt.

But for no reason is just wrong.
Asherlee
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Yes we do. It's called the human race.


How do you figure that?
FireflyIV
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I just don't see the feasability of racial profiling. AT all. Where I live (London) the population is 50% non white. What are they going to do, stop and search 4 million people? I don't think so.

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If your race can't behave, you lose your right to not be profiled. And the law passed in Arizona doesn't mean they can arrest Mexicans willy-nilly. They can ASK them to prove they are legal citizens. Any law-abiding citizen should be more than happy to show a police officer their ID.

KMRaider
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If your race can't behave, you lose your right to not be profiled.


So by your logic, if my brother were to fail math in school, my whole family should not be allowed to participate in school sports?
If my brother can't keep up good grades, my family loses the right to participate in school sports along with him?
EnterOrion
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How do you figure that?


Best species ever at killing things. We can kill millions in an instant.

But that's off topic.

They can ASK them to prove they are legal citizens. Any law-abiding citizen should be more than happy to show a police officer their ID.


In the course of a police encounter.

So illegals, stop speeding and driving drunk.

If your race can't behave, you lose your right to not be profiled


Whites: KKK, stupid politicians
Blacks: Gangs
Hispanics: Psycho gangs
Asians: Brutal gangs
Natives: Scalping people (I don't care if it was over a hundred years ago)

We must now all be profiled. I'm racist and bound to be a stupid politician and all of my friends are going to be in gangs.

Stupid logic by stupid standards.
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You walk down the street, and see someone with a differing color of skin. You acknowledge that in some way. You just racially profiled.

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