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yielee
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Have they finally found Noah's Ark?

"A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical Christians claim to have uncovered remnants of Noah's Ark on its legendary mountain resting place in Turkey."

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/28/alg_the-ark.jpg

Here is a close-up of their find:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01625/Noahs-Ark_1625127c.jpg

What do you think?

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thisISanalt
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At least accept the fact that it may be it.


And I also may grow up to invent anti-gravity deep-fryers.

While this may be an ark used by a guy named Noah, the logical impossibility of the story of Noah's Ark itself really hurts the possibility of this being Noah's Ark.
MageGrayWolf
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If they really found Noah's Ark, then it solidifies the Bible as a History Book, rather than a book of fables.


As I stated before even if the story is based on a real event it doesn't mean the story itself is true. There are far more problems to the story then just a missing boat.
Chuckleluck
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And why is it so important that the fables in the bible be true? Isn't the meaning of each story the point?

Because if the greatest story in the Bible isn't true, the story of Jesus' death on the cross, then there's no hope for humanity.
As I stated before even if the story is based on a real event it doesn't mean the story itself is true. There are far more problems to the story then just a missing boat.

Like...?
RenegadePlayer
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probably fake because wouldnt the wood have rotted away being under water after so long?

MageGrayWolf
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Like...?


Just off the top of my head.

We wouldn't have the genetic diversity we have today if all species populations were dropped to such low numbers.

We wouldn't have certain species because of the required enviorments they need to live in.

Most marine life would not survive because of the change in salinity in the water.

There would be no plant life left on Earth.

The waters would raise the Ark to such an altitude that most species including Noah and his family would be unable to breath.

The Ark was far to small to hold even one of every animal let alone two or seven.

Even if Noah managed to cram that many animals into such a small space there is the problem of feeding them.

There is no geological evidence of a global flood ever happening.

Where did all the water come from?

Where did all the water go?
wolf1991
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Guys, it is god's boat. No weather can damage it. No rock can crush it. No bacteria can destroy it.


Here is a prime example of someone blinded by their belief in propaganda. From the picture that thing looked beaten up, so why isn't it in perfect condition if it's "god's boat". Also, food for thought, did god make it magically bigger? Because isn't it supposed to be something like 300 by 200 by however many cubits big? Um...no it isn't that big. So all you have is a dusty tiny boat to go on and you just say "Go god this boat is real!"...

And people WONDER why I despise relgious people.
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Here is a prime example of someone blinded by their belief in propaganda. From the picture that thing looked beaten up, so why isn't it in perfect condition if it's "god's boat". Also, food for thought, did god make it magically bigger? Because isn't it supposed to be something like 300 by 200 by however many cubits big? Um...no it isn't that big. So all you have is a dusty tiny boat to go on and you just say "Go god this boat is real!"...


That was sarcasm. I guess I could have made that more clear...
Anyway, I am not at all a religious person. I think it's a bunch of bs also.
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Actually, from what were being told, some group in the middle east has a hold of it. Supposedly when Nazi Germany invaded the Middle east, they captured it, but eventually it is back in where it first was told to be.

From what i hear, only 1 man is alowed in the place where they keep it, and when he dies he is replaced.

wolf1991
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Actually, from what were being told, some group in the middle east has a hold of it. Supposedly when Nazi Germany invaded the Middle east, they captured it, but eventually it is back in where it first was told to be.
From what i hear, only 1 man is alowed in the place where they keep it, and when he dies he is replaced.


Wrong ark buddy. You're thinking of the Ark of the Covenant.

Noah's ark is that boat in the big flood.
Asherlee
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Because if the greatest story in the Bible isn't true, the story of Jesus' death on the cross, then there's no hope for humanity.


Ok...?
Asherlee...they found a gigantic boat in the middle of the mountains...in Turkey where it was sought to be...I'm not sure if they've carbon dated this one yet but as of now you can't call it moot from just one article and basing it off of other hoaxes.


LINK?
skater_kid_who_pwns
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Does anyone realize that the ark would have decomposed by now, and it would have to be the size of... big. I mean huge if they wished for two of every animal to enter and have enough room to eat and such, as well as multiple, and I mean a ton, of entrance ways to be able to get everything in on time, as well as some rain proofing to stop the rain witch would be blinding, and some form of SONAR to defend against mountain peaks witch would easily sink it, as well as something to destroy the water once they were done, and some form of moment do to the fact the wind would be high and the waves would need to be avoided. That form of moment must be extremely powerful to move the huge boat, probably an engine, witch was not invented, as they lacked human to row the boat. Along with the thousands of issues with the flood itself not existing...


Alright, well it was said that it was 300 cubic feet or sometihng like that. So lets take evolution into consideration here. Whos to say that there wasn't orgionally only 2 horses, 2 turtels, and so on. Then as they reproduced and where spread to diffrent parts of the world they changed apperance. So if you take all the animals, and stick them into one group, your not left with alot. Why would they need a ton of entracnse? If you look in the bible it took noha quite a long time to build this arc, in which time people made fun of him. Gor waited all the time it took him to build the arc to flood the world, why wouldn't he wait the few extra days it would take them to load up? rain prooing, such as a roof? I'm pretty sure those where invented. If the entire world was under water, Iwould assume that the water would be high enough above the mountains to stop this from happening. And seeing as how it is belived to be ontop a mountain, it would make sense that the water was above the mountian. Why would there be waves for say? Who said it was an ocean? Or that there was wind at all? And if god told hi mto make this boat, don't you tihnk he would ahve thought about the waves not flipping the craft? and why would they need to move the boat? Its not like they could have seen any thing anyways, so steering is pretty much going to do nothing.

So if scientist belive that the world was once covered in water, this is one of the solutions as to how that hppened. Funny how religion can provide answers to scientific things, just people refuse to listen to them

LINK?


He was referring to the link in the OP.....
wolf1991
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So if scientist belive that the world was once covered in water, this is one of the solutions as to how that hppened. Funny how religion can provide answers to scientific things, just people refuse to listen to them


Yeah that was BILLIONS OF YEARS AGO! I don't think we're going back THAT far. Your arguement has proved nothing.
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I'm actually having my doubts about their's being real. This is because in the second picture they got straw thrown in for effect. If you really found Noah's Ark, than you wouldn't need to toss straw into it for believability purposes.


From the photographer's point of view the straw adds contrast to an otherwise monotone/same color background. It also gives a tiny bit of scale.

If this vessel is really over 4000 yrs, its in great shape. I agree about the size, though. Why don't we all have a good laugh because I think you nailed it Yielee, it looks like a goat hauler!
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So lets take evolution into consideration here. Whos to say that there wasn't orgionally only 2 horses, 2 turtels, and so on. Then as they reproduced and where spread to diffrent parts of the world they changed apperance.


This would require we cherry pick the Bible for one thing. Even taking this into consideration we still wouldn't end up with the genetic diversity we have today.

So if you take all the animals, and stick them into one group, your not left with alot.


Exactly what do you mean by group? It seems to me your just replacing kind for group which is very poorly defined.

Iwould assume that the water would be high enough above the mountains to stop this from happening. And seeing as how it is belived to be ontop a mountain, it would make sense that the water was above the mountian.


It would still need a roof or something before reaching this height. This still begs the question of how they could breath at such a high altitude. Also to put just how heavy this rainfall was the heaviest recorded rainfall in history was an average of 73.6 inches in one day. For this global flood it would have had to rain an average of about 8711 inches a day.

So if scientist belive that the world was once covered in water, this is one of the solutions as to how that hppened.


What are you talking about?

Funny how religion can provide answers to scientific things, just people refuse to listen to them


It's not an answer without proof of it happening.
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Alright, well it was said that it was 300 cubic feet or sometihng like that. So lets take evolution into consideration here. Whos to say that there wasn't orgionally only 2 horses, 2 turtels, and so on. Then as they reproduced and where spread to diffrent parts of the world they changed apperance. So if you take all the animals, and stick them into one group, your not left with alot. Why would they need a ton of entracnse? If you look in the bible it took noha quite a long time to build this arc, in which time people made fun of him. Gor waited all the time it took him to build the arc to flood the world, why wouldn't he wait the few extra days it would take them to load up? rain prooing, such as a roof? I'm pretty sure those where invented. If the entire world was under water, Iwould assume that the water would be high enough above the mountains to stop this from happening. And seeing as how it is belived to be ontop a mountain, it would make sense that the water was above the mountian. Why would there be waves for say? Who said it was an ocean? Or that there was wind at all? And if god told hi mto make this boat, don't you tihnk he would ahve thought about the waves not flipping the craft? and why would they need to move the boat? Its not like they could have seen any thing anyways, so steering is pretty much going to do nothing.

So if scientist belive that the world was once covered in water, this is one of the solutions as to how that hppened. Funny how religion can provide answers to scientific things, just people refuse to listen to them


First, you did not cover the problem of decomposition. Second, the Bible is what says he didn't wait a few extra days. And yes, a roof would be good rain proofing, but not a squire roof, as it would cave in from all the water. The fossils are what says there was not only two horses ect, and your religion even goes against evolution further nulling this point.
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