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This also brings me to my next point: While a lot of people do get some kind of accelerated class, a lot don't. They don't learn anything and they're smarter than nearly everyone in the class. The sweep through every paper, every test, but don't learn anything new because they know it all. Nothing is remotely hard.

Effort is all a grade is.

Can you propose a better way of teaching a general populous?

Effort is all a grade is.

I disagree with you. I doubt many kids go into their classes knowing everything already. The kids who brush past all their homework and tests are generally those who are fast learners.

I think that the intelligence of the student and teaching methods of the teacher are far more important.

The Canadian education system is the exact same way. You merely sit in class and have facts shoved down your throat. Furthermore, each person has a unique talent, something they are good at, for me it is writing, and yet there is nothing in school to help me hone this school, nothing to guide me. My creative writing class is filled with people who only know how to write essays. Another problem I find. English is solely focussed on essay writing, this is a SEVERE flaw, because English is so much more than writing essays. And I agree with the OP, I hardly try and I pass will an A- average.

I think it is corrupt but thoughout the whole year you obviously learn something or else why would you be going to school.

I lived in Iowa for 7 years and i found that education was amazing there. The teaching is great because the teachers actually care in your education. They will spend time with you to make sure that you really understand what's going on. Then i moved to georgia... and my honest opinion is that it's horriable. The teachers don't give a rat's butt about your education, they care about that dang pay-check. Teachers should be paid accodingly to their job, not how many hours they get.

We spent about a month learning about checks and balances, which I think most people learned in elementary school.

The sweep through every paper, every test, but don't learn anything new because they know it all. Nothing is remotely hard.

And I agree with the OP, I hardly try and I pass will an A- average.

My creative writing class is filled with people who only know how to write essays. Another problem I find. English is solely focussed on essay writing, this is a SEVERE flaw, because English is so much more than writing essays.

Sorry for double posting, but this is my own problem with the education system. I didn't want this to be crammed with my above point.

Here's the problem with school. Everything is so focused on meeting a certain criteria. Where I come from, you had to take 3 PE classes. That's three semesters of mine that were wasted. General study is too broad.

Another issue I have is that schools are filled with kids who don't want to learn. That's why I failed a lot of my classes. I would sit in a classroom absolutely bored out of my mind. Rather than having to write a paper on something related to the class, I would have to do take notes and turn them in for a grade or spend my time doing in class assignments that the class did as a group. I would generally say "fuck this" and drift off in my own world because everything moved at such an INCREDIBLY SLOW PACE. I would grow anxious with every question that took ten minutes to answer.

I hated how some of my teachers, especially one of my math teachers, would teach for the whole class period only to give your assignment at the end of class. In fact, my math teacher wouldn't assign us homework until the bell rang. She would go on and on and on about stuff that everyone knew. Seriously, everyone told her they wanted their homework early, but she refused to negotiate.

I never failed high school and I didn't have to stay an extra year. I passed just enough classes to graduate. I would either get caught up through tedious work near the end of the semester or it was a class I actually enjoyed and felt like I was going somewhere.

Another reason why it was hard for me to pass a lot of my classes was because they were stressful. My school was build like a prison. You couldn't even open the fucking windows! It would be a nice day. Want fresh air? Okay, oh wait, you can't, because the windows don't open. Not only that, but there were other ridiculous rules that only stressed me out more.

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So here's is my issue with this thread. Don't worry if the classes are easy or not. I found the easiest classes to be those that interested me or had interesting teachers. I understand where the OP is coming from, and I think the issue isn't that everything is too easy, but rather they are moving too slow and he's being forced to work a week on a project he could have done in a day. If I'm wrong, do correct me.

I skipped school for a whole week. I just didn't want to go. When I returned, they put me in ISD or In School Detention. I was placed in a room with other students. Nobody was allowed to talk and I had to stay in that room the whole day. It was one of the best days I have ever had my miserable senior year.

I missed a weeks worth of homework, I got all of it done in that one day with time to spare. My grades began to drop from then because I kept falling asleep during class or going off into my own world, bored that I must listen to the same lecture that I already understood the first time around.

If I could change the education system, I would simply make school a more enjoyable place. If people want to learn, everyone can just move on.

That's what I was trying to get at, though I came at it the wrong way.

But I also feel that school is going about things the wrong way. If I had the ability to change the system I would make it that students have more freedom to learn what they wish to learn, I see little point in placing a student in a mathematics class if, despite all efforts, they continue to fail. They should pursue their own personal goals.

But yes, school needs to be more enjoyable. I can think of a lot of ways to make English classes more enjoyable, it's called allow creativity in a student's work. Science should allow students to actually experiment not some stupid lab from a text book where the result is already known. History just needs more engaging teachers. Ect, ect. Though I'm sure that math is a hopeless case unless you already enjoy it.

I see little point in placing a student in a mathematics class if, despite all efforts, they continue to fail. They should pursue their own personal goals.

It's required in most high schools. If you tell me that everyone in your class knew everything already, I won't believe you for a moment.

I don't think the issue is that school is too easy, I think the issue is that school is boring

*Hugs the OP*

You've no idea how much I agree with every single word you just said.

The education system in this country doesn't stress a basic understanding of society or the current world around us. We need to rethink every single aspect of what goes is taught and how it is taught.

But, yet another problem is that most people these days (or at least from what I have seen in all the public schools, and even the private school that I'm in) is that people don't HAVE any goals. So if you let people go pursue their own goals, it would be back home sleeping in bed.

Ideally, of course, school would be challenging and exciting.
But if I had to choose, I would rather have school be difficult and boring than easy and exciting.

Engage the mind and you'll have a student willing to work.