ForumsWEPR[necro]Why are so maney people conserend about "Nature"?

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314d1
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Though yes, at the moment it is a necessity, things considered "natural" can all be replaced within a hundred years, so unless we attempt genocide on every species then we will be fine by the time the "nature" was destroyed. I feel like natural things are mostly a tool to earn money at the moment, for many "green" products cost more, are less effective, and do little in the means of helping the "environment". People should stop worrying about problems that are not problems that are not problems and focus on things that matter. Money being spent to research said "green" attempts should be redirected to robotics, as robotics can mimic and even improve upon "natural" things. So, why are so many people obsessed with "natural, Nature, green" things? (I would have to guise propaganda. PS, please keep flaming to a minimum since someone is probably going to flame me...)

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Graham
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Why are so many people concerned about "Nature"*

Something to do with morality and rights. Preserving nature can be beneficial to the 'robots' by discovering another species and looking at it's actions.

The methods of preserving so far are very inefficient though, and kills humans.

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It's fine to be a little conscious about the environment, but the way some people do it is pathetic. The world isn't there to be saved every five seconds. You're interfering just as much by constantly being so active about it.

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I'm concerned about protecting nature because... well... have you seen nature? It's epic. Hiking is literally my favorite activity. Right now I have to drive pretty far to get somewhere where I can't hear traffic anymore.

The methods of preserving so far are very inefficient though, and kills humans.

I'm not saying your wrong, but could you give specific examples? Otherwise I don't know whether you are refering to some eco-terrorist or the green movement in general.

You're interfering just as much by constantly being so active about it.

the exxon valdez comes to mind...
The pressurized hoses they used to clear off some of the oil killed the microbial community, damaging the ecosystem even more than the oil did. Sometimes people with good motives just don't think.
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examples?


a fictional book: Silent Spring by Rachel Carson demonized DDT and inspired an anti-DDT (used to rid malaria) movement claiming it kills birds. It in-fact does not kill birds and doesn't cause cancer (another claim).

There is about an average of three hundred and seventy children dying every day from malaria.
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I'm concerned about protecting nature because... well... have you seen nature? It's epic. Hiking is literally my favorite activity. Right now I have to drive pretty far to get somewhere where I can't hear traffic anymore.


I have seen it, yet I prefer machines and mettle to trees and grass. Besides that, are you saying we should spend millions to billions of dollars saving something that is pretty, even if your not really saving it?
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Were concerned about you because you can't spell 'concerned' right.

We don't want to live in a condo sprawling country. We don't want to live in a smog over-run country. We want to live in a green place that we can be proud of when we talk about nature.

314d1
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We don't want to live in a condo sprawling country. We don't want to live in a smog over-run country. We want to live in a green place that we can be proud of when we talk about nature.


My spell check doesn't work on titles..

It may be needed to have houses everywhere at one point in the future. Smog will be able to be cleared, possibly by crop duster like machines, possibly by filter like machines. Then dye everything green. Pride in having a tree? I rather have pride in being the most technologically advanced nation.
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If we don't help to preserve Nature then large companies will exploit it and a good example of what would happen if this happened would be the Dr Seuss book The Lorax

Also animals are nature and humans are animals therefor by protecting nature were protecting ourselves

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first of all we need nature because we breath oxygen and trees provide oxygen, another reason is if we keep doing this then were all gonna burn into a crisp! The sun is getting hotter and hotter, I'm in the philippines and it is now the hottest summer since 1997. It is really and I mean really hot. Thats why people care. Either because well gas ourselves to death or burn to nothing. Maybe 2010 is real, but nothing like the movies, earth crumbles to nothing or becomes unlivable.

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Dr Seuss book The Lorax


I watched it up too the 2:50 mark, then is strayed too far away from the actual book. But yes, capitalism can take over like that, we have Unions though.
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first of all we need nature because we breath oxygen and trees provide oxygen, another reason is if we keep doing this then were all gonna burn into a crisp! The sun is getting hotter and hotter, I'm in the philippines and it is now the hottest summer since 1997. It is really and I mean really hot. Thats why people care. Either because well gas ourselves to death or burn to nothing. Maybe 2010 is real, but nothing like the movies, earth crumbles to nothing or becomes unlivable.

Artificial Co2 to oxygen converters. The atmosphere can be repaired by "crop dusting" the needed chemicals, filtering out extra, ect. Its 2012, and as I said the damage would take longer to make then to fix.

If we don't help to preserve Nature then large companies will exploit it and a good example of what would happen if this happened would be the Dr Seuss book The Lorax

Also animals are nature and humans are animals therefor by protecting nature were protecting ourselves


Why should companies not exploit it? If it can be replaced, then it actually should be used. Though human are animals, in most people's minds they are not "nature", witch is why I have been using the quotes around "nature", as it is used as a relative term.
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Its 2012, and as I said the damage would take longer to make then to fix.


The world isn't going to go to hell in 2012, that's much too soon. If we were to abandon all alternative energy, and clear cut all our forest, and do whatever the hell we want to the earth maybe, but not while we keep doing what were doing.
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Ya know, we do live on planet Earth. We do exist in a land of nature, and if we don't preserve it, our planet may become inhabitable, and the human population would be ultimately screwed.

In terms of ecology, preservation of the environment may not be important so as to make our biosphere look 'good and green', but to maintain necessary ecological processes that were disturbed by human activities, and may irrevocably harm our planet and thus ourselves in the long run.

Graham
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We're concerned about you


At least spell right yourself if you're criticizing others.

We don't want to live in a condo sprawling country. We don't want to live in a smog over-run country. We want to live in a green place that we can be proud of when we talk about nature.


Who's we?

Pride in having a tree? I rather have pride in being the most technologically advanced nation.


Nature is way more advanced than we are.
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Humans who would see the world destroyed for the sake of progress are not human.

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