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Haku1234567890
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Are morning people born or made? In my case it was definitely made. I rarely went to bed before midnight, and Iâd almost always sleep in late. I usually didnât start hitting my stride each day until late afternoon.

But after a while I couldnât ignore the high correlation between success and rising early, even in my own life. On those rare occasions where I did get up early, I noticed that my productivity was almost always higher, not just in the morning but all throughout the day. And I also noticed a significant feeling of well-being. So being the proactive goal-achiever I was, I set out to become a habitual early riser. I promptly set my alarm clock for 5AMâ¦

⦠and the next morning, I got up just before noon.

Hmmmâ¦

I tried again many more times, each time not getting very far with it. I figured I must have been born without the early riser gene. Whenever my alarm went off, my first thought was always to stop that blasted noise and go back to sleep. I tabled this habit for a number of years, but eventually I came across some sleep research that showed me that I was going about this problem the wrong way. Once I applied those ideas, I was able to become an early riser consistently.

Itâs hard to become an early riser using the wrong strategy. But with the right strategy, itâs relatively easy.

The most common wrong strategy is this: You assume that if youâre going to get up earlier, youâd better go to bed earlier. So you figure out how much sleep youâre getting now, and then just shift everything back a few hours. If you now sleep from midnight to 8am, you figure youâll go to bed at 10pm and get up at 6am instead. Sounds very reasonable, but it will usually fail.

It seems there are two main schools of thought about sleep patterns. One is that you should go to bed and get up at the same times every day. Itâs like having an alarm clock on both ends â" you try to sleep the same hours each night. This seems practical for living in modern society. We need predictability in our schedules. And we need to ensure adequate rest.

The second school says you should listen to your bodyâs needs and go to bed when youâre tired and get up when you naturally wake up. This approach is rooted in biology. Our bodies should know how much rest we need, so we should listen to them.

Through trial and error, I found out for myself that both of these schools are suboptimal sleep patterns. Both of them are wrong if you care about productivity. Hereâs why:

If you sleep set hours, youâll sometimes go to bed when you arenât sleepy enough. If itâs taking you more than five minutes to fall asleep each night, you arenât sleepy enough. Youâre wasting time lying in bed awake and not being asleep. Another problem is that youâre assuming you need the same number of hours of sleep every night, which is a false assumption. Your sleep needs vary from day to day.

If you sleep based on what your body tells you, youâll probably be sleeping more than you need â" in many cases a lot more, like 10-15 hours more per week (the equivalent of a full waking day). A lot of people who sleep this way get 8+ hours of sleep per night, which is usually too much. Also, your mornings may be less predictable if youâre getting up at different times. And because our natural rhythms are sometimes out of tune with the 24-hour clock, you may find that your sleep times begin to drift.

The optimal solution for me has been to combine both approaches. Itâs very simple, and many early risers do this without even thinking about it, but it was a mental breakthrough for me nonetheless. The solution was to go to bed when Iâm sleepy (and only when Iâm sleepy) and get up with an alarm clock at a fixed time (7 days per week). So I always get up at the same time (in my case 5am), but I go to bed at different times every night.

I go to bed when Iâm too sleepy to stay up. My sleepiness test is that if I couldnât read a book for more than a page or two without drifting off, Iâm ready for bed. Most of the time when I go to bed, Iâm asleep within three minutes. I lie down, get comfortable, and immediately Iâm drifting off. Sometimes I go to bed at 9:30pm; other times I stay up until midnight. Most of the time I go to bed between 10-11pm. If Iâm not sleepy, I stay up until I canât keep my eyes open any longer. Reading is an excellent activity to do during this time, since it becomes obvious when Iâm too sleepy to read.

When my alarm goes off every morning, I turn it off, stretch for a couple seconds, and sit up. I donât think about it. Iâve learned that the longer it takes me to get up, the more likely I am to try to sleep in. So I donât allow myself to have conversations in my head about the benefits of sleeping in once the alarm goes off. Even if I want to sleep in, I always get up right away.

After a few days of using this approach, I found that my sleep patterns settled into a natural rhythm. If I got too little sleep one night, Iâd automatically be sleepier earlier and get more sleep the next night. And if I had lots of energy and wasnât tired, Iâd sleep less. My body learned when to knock me out because it knew I would always get up at the same time and that my wake-up time wasnât negotiable.

A side effect was that on average, I slept about 90 minutes less per night, but I actually felt more well-rested. I was sleeping almost the entire time I was in bed.

I read that most insomniacs are people who go to bed when they arenât sleepy. If you arenât sleepy and find yourself unable to fall asleep quickly, get up and stay awake for a while. Resist sleep until your body begins to release the hormones that rob you of consciousness. If you simply go to bed when youâre sleepy and then get up at a fixed time, youâll cure your insomnia. The first night youâll stay up late, but youâll fall asleep right away. You may be tired that first day from getting up too early and getting only a few hours of sleep the whole night, but youâll slog through the day and will want to go to bed earlier that second night. After a few days, youâll settle into a pattern of going to bed at roughly the same time and falling asleep right away.

So if you want to become an early riser (or just exert more control over your sleep patterns), then try this: Go to bed only when youâre too sleepy to stay up, and get up at a fixed time every morning.

Have a nice day

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Haku1234567890
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FIXED

Are morning people born or made? In my case it was definitely made. In my early 20s, I rarely went to bed before midnight, and Id almost always sleep in late. I usually didnt start hitting my stride each day until late afternoon.

But after a while I couldnt ignore the high correlation between success and rising early, even in my own life. On those rare occasions where I did get up early, I noticed that my productivity was almost always higher, not just in the morning but all throughout the day. And I also noticed a significant feeling of well-being. So being the proactive goal-achiever I was, I set out to become a habitual early riser. I promptly set my alarm clock for 5AMâ¦

⦠and the next morning, I got up just before noon.

Hmmmâ¦

I tried again many more times, each time not getting very far with it. I figured I must have been born without the early riser gene. Whenever my alarm went off, my first thought was always to stop that blasted noise and go back to sleep. I tabled this habit for a number of years, but eventually I came across some sleep research that showed me that I was going about this problem the wrong way. Once I applied those ideas, I was able to become an early riser consistently.

Its hard to become an early riser using the wrong strategy. But with the right strategy, its relatively easy.

The most common wrong strategy is this: You assume that if youre going to get up earlier, youd better go to bed earlier. So you figure out how much sleep youre getting now, and then just shift everything back a few hours. If you now sleep from midnight to 8am, you figure youll go to bed at 10pm and get up at 6am instead. Sounds very reasonable, but it will usually fail.

It seems there are two main schools of thought about sleep patterns. One is that you should go to bed and get up at the same times every day. Its like having an alarm clock on both ends â" you try to sleep the same hours each night. This seems practical for living in modern society. We need predictability in our schedules. And we need to ensure adequate rest.

The second school says you should listen to your bodys needs and go to bed when youre tired and get up when you naturally wake up. This approach is rooted in biology. Our bodies should know how much rest we need, so we should listen to them.

Through trial and error, I found out for myself that both of these schools are suboptimal sleep patterns. Both of them are wrong if you care about productivity. Heres why:

If you sleep set hours, youll sometimes go to bed when you arent sleepy enough. If its taking you more than five minutes to fall asleep each night, you arent sleepy enough. Youre wasting time lying in bed awake and not being asleep. Another problem is that youre assuming you need the same number of hours of sleep every night, which is a false assumption. Your sleep needs vary from day to day.

If you sleep based on what your body tells you, youll probably be sleeping more than you need â" in many cases a lot more, like 10-15 hours more per week (the equivalent of a full waking day). A lot of people who sleep this way get 8+ hours of sleep per night, which is usually too much. Also, your mornings may be less predictable if youre getting up at different times. And because our natural rhythms are sometimes out of tune with the 24-hour clock, you may find that your sleep times begin to drift.

The optimal solution for me has been to combine both approaches. Its very simple, and many early risers do this without even thinking about it, but it was a mental breakthrough for me nonetheless. The solution was to go to bed when Im sleepy (and only when Im sleepy) and get up with an alarm clock at a fixed time (7 days per week). So I always get up at the same time (in my case 5am), but I go to bed at different times every night.

I go to bed when Im too sleepy to stay up. My sleepiness test is that if I couldnt read a book for more than a page or two without drifting off, Im ready for bed. Most of the time when I go to bed, Im asleep within three minutes. I lie down, get comfortable, and immediately Im drifting off. Sometimes I go to bed at 9:30pm; other times I stay up until midnight. Most of the time I go to bed between 10-11pm. If Im not sleepy, I stay up until I cant keep my eyes open any longer. Reading is an excellent activity to do during this time, since it becomes obvious when Im too sleepy to read.

When my alarm goes off every morning, I turn it off, stretch for a couple seconds, and sit up. I dont think about it. Ive learned that the longer it takes me to get up, the more likely I am to try to sleep in. So I dont allow myself to have conversations in my head about the benefits of sleeping in once the alarm goes off. Even if I want to sleep in, I always get up right away.

After a few days of using this approach, I found that my sleep patterns settled into a natural rhythm. If I got too little sleep one night, Id automatically be sleepier earlier and get more sleep the next night. And if I had lots of energy and wasnt tired, Id sleep less. My body learned when to knock me out because it knew I would always get up at the same time and that my wake-up time wasnt negotiable.

A side effect was that on average, I slept about 90 minutes less per night, but I actually felt more well-rested. I was sleeping almost the entire time I was in bed.

I read that most insomniacs are people who go to bed when they arent sleepy. If you arent sleepy and find yourself unable to fall asleep quickly, get up and stay awake for a while. Resist sleep until your body begins to release the hormones that rob you of consciousness. If you simply go to bed when youre sleepy and then get up at a fixed time, youll cure your insomnia. The first night youll stay up late, but youll fall asleep right away. You may be tired that first day from getting up too early and getting only a few hours of sleep the whole night, but youll slog through the day and will want to go to bed earlier that second night. After a few days, you
ll settle into a pattern of going to bed at roughly the same time and falling asleep right away.

So if you want to become an early riser (or just exert more control over your sleep patterns), then try this: Go to bed only when youre too sleepy to stay up, and get up at a fixed time every morning.

Amitkevincloskey
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Nice way. I will try out this approach. By the way, I always get up quite early.

Strop
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When my alarm goes off every morning, I turn it off, stretch for a couple seconds, and sit up.


The most basic principle of sleep hygiene is that your body sets its sleep clock based on when you get up. Therefore:

Go to bed only when youre too sleepy to stay up, and get up at a fixed time every morning.


Is sound advice.

Your body will have higher cortisol levels in the morning, meaning you will be more wakeful by default (hence working nightshift is bad for you.) A good additional dose of cortisol in the form of fear that your tutor is going to skin your hide and ask you difficult questions because you're late to ward round is also a good motivation!
Haku1234567890
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Nice way. I will try out this approach. By the way, I always get up quite early.


I remember when I was waking up at 11am, now Im waking up very early in about 5am without any problem
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I have found that I can only wake up before about 8am if I have something to do that morning. Even though my alarm is a stereo that plays loud music, it won't wake me unless I actually have to get up for something.

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Interesting, that's basically what I have done already. My body has gotten somewhat unadjusted to it after a few days of deviation.

I got used to waking up at five in the morning erm, three years ago I think, that I didn't need an alarm clock. I'd usually find myself awake. Or someone would wake me up.

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ahh, I have been going about my sleep the wrong way. I do go to bed at 12am every night and spend ussually 1 to 2 hours laying there thinking about things before falling asleep, and end up waking at around 10pm. thanks for the advice, I'm gonna go to bed at 3am xD and force myself up early. So hopefully I'll feel sleepier earlier.

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I go to sleep when i get sleepy but I always wake up at different times because my parents don't like alarm clocks going off so I have to rely on my body to wake up at the right time.

The time I wake up that's average out of all the times would have to be 6:00. Half the time I wake up at 5:30 then sometime at 6 then rarely 7:30. Depends How Tired I am.

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It takes me a while to fall asleep but when I do, I sleep like a brick. Well, at least untill my alarm goes off. Then I just wake right up and go downstairs. I have never had a problem with getting up in the morning.

My bro has a problem with getting up though. I may use a few of the things mentioned earlier, but does anyone know of a fairly inexpensive, very very loud alarm clock?

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How to stay up:
Be uncomfortable (cold)
Have an activity
Have a screen

So sit in your underwear in the basement and play video games.

It's fun to wake up at 2-5am. I got there not by alarms, but by going through the whole day. Wakeup 8am stay awake until about 2-5pm the next day.

knight_34
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It's fun to wake up at 2-5am. I got there not by alarms, but by going through the whole day. Wakeup 8am stay awake until about 2-5pm the next day.


Yeah, though I find myself involuntarily waking up during that period due to my horrible sleeping habits. Still fun however, spending the entire morning without anyone around. It's better waking up early and going through it, than staying the entire night and going through it.
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I usually wake up naturally by 10 no matter what time I go to sleep, I once went to sleep at 6 in the morning and woke at 10 without being tired at all it was so strange, but I've noticed about myself that my productivity is much higher at night no matter how much rest I've gotten.

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use an alarm?

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The correlation between waking up early is going to bed early. Remember one of Ben Franklin's aphorisms? "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise"? There you go. Really, all a guy needs is 6-7 hours of sleep a day to function normally; if you're a teen, then up it by about 2.

So, go to bed on the time that it will give you the hours of sleep you need, not want, and you will wake up early. If you cannot wake up for the first few days, then get someone to wake you up or use an alarm.

Kyouzou
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But see I've gone to bed at eight and still am dead tired when I wake up in the morning maybe my sleep cycle's just really strange.

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