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Haku1234567890
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I think most of us are going to hell, according to what I have studyed in school, it's like all who are violating any of god's Commandments by purposely (even only onice) they go directly to Hell when they die, If you have light sins you go to purgatory where if somebody prais for you you go to Heaven, And you go directly to Heaven only if you have NO sins...Ok, if I die right now when I'm writing this I would go to Hell :/ only way to clear all your sins is to go to confession, but think about it for a moment, if you die in any car accident (or something similat) and you broke ANY Commandment of god you go to hell...

God's Commandments

1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make unto thee any graven image.
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
5. Honour your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness.
10. You shall not covet.

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knight_34
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Well, isn't it said that that is what repentance is for? Oh, and what's your religion?

Highfire
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Hrmm... So either you're saying we can all partay and be bad because it's going to happen anyway...

Or you're thinking God is evil...

Or... You want this to be a flame war?
Well... maybe.

Not sure what you want, but yes, most people will go to Hell, including me, if he's real. Or she, or it.

WOAH WOAH wtf? 7.? Cannot commit adultery? That's sex right? Hrmm I wonder about Adam and Eve.

Oh and by the way, the most perverted thing about Christianity is:
1. Adam.
2. Eve.
3. Kids.
4. Kid + Kid = ?

Er.. Yah...

And 5 (Honour your father and your mother) seems awfully honorable and medieval. It seems an awful lot like it's fake.

Yep, fake. It's based on blind faith - we have proof that the world is over 10 billion years old (if I remember correctly). And they say that the Earth is 6,000 years old...

We have information on genes that is nearly proof itself, it is extremely hard evidence. Not to mention the physical "setbacks" people have, webbed feet and hands, spots like a leopard, etc etc. And God created us all separately did he? He's certainly very creative.

I am a moral and logical person, which is why I am not religious. And if I do go to hell, fine. Because honestly, if God is perfect then wtf is wrong with him for me having reasons to my life? Not to mention 6, I think you should be allowed to commit murder WITH GOOD REASON. I can see this in 5 pages from now, being quoted and flamed for having just say that.

So, anyway. I'm off, good luck, peace out

- H

TrayDogenzaka
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This should be in the WEPR section.

And Haku, you're reading too much into the whole "God" thing. The Bible doesn't say "If you sin you go to Hell" it says "If you are sinful you go to Hell." Meaning, if you're a prostitute you go to Hell. If you have sex with someone you don't know once, and you repent, you're fine.

Random example prolly failed.

You go up and shoot someone in the face, you go to Hell. You shoot at a deer and miss, and hit someone in the face. You repent, and you're fine. Or at least, that's what my family was taught.

~Not Christian. I don't believe in the bible.

knight_34
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Not to mention 6, I think you should be allowed to commit murder WITH GOOD REASON.


I'm a Christian and I suppose killing someone in self-defense is allowable. Which is good reason right?

Oh, and I knew this would immediately be turned into a religion debate.
Haku1234567890
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Yep, fake. It's based on blind faith - we have proof that the world is over 10 billion years old (if I remember correctly). And they say that the Earth is 6,000 years old...



no..you got it wrong, world is 10 billion years old but back then it was just incandescent ball and then after some billion years first life cone to earth and about 6,000 years ago first Human come to earth, so...humans are that old not world

http://i43.tinypic.com/2is8jn8.jpg

you see??
Haku1234567890
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Oh, and what's your religion?

I'm an Christian
Graham
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In like protestant christianity, Jesus was the one who took blame for all mankind's sins so people could get into heaven. Just gotta follow the bible as well as you can.

Graham
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I'm an Christian


Seems like you have quite a Jew's standpoint.
knight_34
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I'm an Christian


Which denomination? Oh, nevermind.

You're Catholic right?
thoadthetoad
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That seems to be following Catholicism. Hence I shall throw it in the trash.

IF a god is malevolent he will do such things, and grudgingly let a pure person into heaven.
If he is benevolent, he will let everyone into heaven.
If he is Neutral, then it's likely each individual person gets their own individual heaven.

By the way, adultery means no cheating on yer wife/gf/bf.

Highfire
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no..you got it wrong, world is 10 billion years old but back then it was just incandescent ball and then after some billion years first life cone to earth and about 6,000 years ago first Human come to earth, so...humans are that old not world


Apologies, point being that originations of humans was further back than that. Anyway...

The murder someone in self defence, don't think as it as killing them, think about it as saving you.

If the person is going to kill you, for whatever unknown reason, then why should you allow him to do a bad thing to a (what should be) good person?

By the way, adultery means no cheating on yer wife/gf/bf.


At first note I thought "Oh, fair enough then." but er... I'm not exactly so sure.

Really speaking, as a non-religious person, I think it was natural for men to mate with whomever he could have (opposite gender, ofcourse). Now if Marriage, ofcourse that is a bad thing, but if it's a non-commited Boyfriend or Girlfriend, why not?

It's usually a mans nature to try and be the alpha male, millions of years ago atleast (it was millions of years ago we were cavemen, right? ) it was what we tried to do.

Anyway, if I am confronted by God in the afterlife - any God, I will gladly be one of his faith, being sent hell or not. But I will make sure it isn't a hallucination either (No insult intended)

Besides, I hate it when people say "Nobodies perfect.", you could atleast try? Sounds, lame... I know, but in the end it's true, I honestly do try to be perfect, I don't say I have been from birth, I've made mistakes (one mistake aswell, which is still haunting me physically and mentally till this day) and I regret them. I doubt we are born perfect, but religion is good at telling you what's right and wrong, and you don't need that.

I think the human mind is perfectly capable of deciphering right and wrong, Nature owns maaan! KEEP THE TREES!

xD

- H
knight_34
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Well, all the definitions I see put adultery as being voluntary intercourse between a married and an unmarried person. Nothing about girlfriends/boyfriends there.

Joshman1444
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The Cristian religion is full of holes. But if you "believe " everything will be fine...
Such bullshit

ExpoBanana
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i really dont know my religion... i was recently a mormon... but, i went to church almost every weekend, and im starting to think i dont believe in god... and i dont know how my family will react if i say that to them! :\\ im kinda scared... but, i agree with Highfire in most of wat he says...

Haku1234567890
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You're Catholic right?


yea, Greek-Catolic

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