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Over the past 5 years I have struggled with depression and anxiety. The main cause I think was about 5 years ago, I began thinking about the world much more. I ended up with many questions with few answers. I am not creating this thread for people to answer them, but if you can, by golly, sure. I just want to hear some tips on how to deal with these things.

What is time?
If there is a god, what created him and how?
Who wrote the Bible?(proof?)
Ar questions just as important as answers?
If everything was just created, what was it created from?
How could matter appear out of nothing?
How did humans evolve to have consciousness?
If you would go to hell...how would you feel eternal pain if you left your body and brain with your nerves behind?
How powerful is the human mind?
How old is the universe?
Why do I look at things from a perspective of a nonhuman being?
For this one, I just seem to never look at things from a human, or my side. Though something could be annoying for me and help animals or plants, I side with the plants or animals instantly.
Why do some Christians shut off their minds to science?
Why is science considered a religion?

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314d1
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What is time?


Time is a relative measurement.

If there is a god, what created him and how?


There isn't

Who wrote the Bible?(proof?)


According to my Bible school, people from all walks of life, from farmers to profits.

Ar questions just as important as answers?


No. Answers are more important (though this is more of an opinion question)

If everything was just created, what was it created from?


The big bang theory is one of the more popular theories, but we don't truthfully know for sure as it is hard to do experiments on it and we can't witness it.

How could matter appear out of nothing?


We will find that out one day... read above, it has the just of this answer.


How did humans evolve to have consciousness?


Human may not be the only animal with conscious though, but it involves our large well developed warm blooded brain.

If you would go to hell...how would you feel eternal pain if you left your body and brain with your nerves behind?


There is no hell.

How powerful is the human mind?


It depends on what you mean by that. If you mean the hopefully meaning of mind, mind over matter and PSI abilities, these likely do not exist. If you mean how intelligent can we be, I would say extremely.

How old is the universe?


I may have to look this one up, but it is thought to be several trillion I believe.

Why do I look at things from a perspective of a nonhuman being?


I don't know what you mean by that, but I have doubts that you have ever looked at something with a perspective non-human...

For this one, I just seem to never look at things from a human, or my side. Though something could be annoying for me and help animals or plants, I side with the plants or animals instantly.


That makes it a little clearer. I would say propaganda, you are told that plants and animals have feelings and all that or feel sorry for them, either way would have been brought about by propaganda.

Why do some Christians shut off their minds to science?


Because living in there fictional world makes them feel safe from death and all negative things...

Why is science considered a religion?


Its not, last time I checked.
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What is time?

As was stated, time is an entirely relative measurement that we base our lives around.

If there is a god, what created him and how?

The answer to this question will remain unknown until death, sadly.

Who wrote the Bible?(proof?)

Too long ago for definitive proof IMO

Ar questions just as important as answers?

Of course they are, if not more. The correct question might lead to an entirely new method of thought.

If everything was just created, what was it created from?

Well it would have to have been created wouldn't it? My next answer should tie into this fairly well.

How could matter appear out of nothing?

It's postulated that in the center of a black hole is what is called a singularity, a singularity is an object so dense that the area it occupies causes space and time to effectively not exist, so objects sucked into a black hole effectively no longer exist.
It is theorized that because matter can disappear in a singularity, it can also reappear, we call this the Big Bang.

How did humans evolve to have consciousness?

Technically, everything has consciousness, I think the word you're looking for is sentience. And you kind of answered the question, evolution. Humans are by no means effective predators without our minds, so we developed better minds to survive.

If you would go to hell...how would you feel eternal pain if you left your body and brain with your nerves behind?

That's a different one, but I'm no theologian, so have no effective answer.

How powerful is the human mind?

Look around you, this is all the result of the human mind, you need to form your own opinions of reality's grandeur.

How old is the universe?

Already answered above.

Why do I look at things from a perspective of a nonhuman being?

Perhaps because you realize that in this world that animals and plants have no real say, but I have no psych degree, so my answer is as bad as anyone else's.

Why do some Christians shut off their minds to science?

Science means knowledge in the Latin, and much knowledge, and those who pursue it deals with proof and concrete evidence. Proof is an enemy to faith, as faith is the belief in something without proof of it, so there is bound to be love lost between scientists and religious peoples.

Why is science considered a religion?

A religion is simply a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and creation of the universe; science has it's own ideas, theology has others.
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That is rather Hippocratic Kirby, as using your logic, you are saying that god exists no matter what thus making you the closed minded one. Perhaps we didn't want to type out "God probably doesn't exist" the same way you didn't type out "God, if he exists, has no beginning and end"

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What is time?

time is a measurement of the 4'th demension
If there is a god, what created him and how?

ive been taught that god has always been there and nothing created him because of that.
Who wrote the Bible?(proof?)

the bible isnt a book. its a bunch of books put into a collection. not all the books in the bible we know have had a "founder" but we all know who wrote the gospels =)
Ar questions just as important as answers?

without one you cant have the other so yes.
If everything was just created, what was it created from?

matter and anti matter, or energy
How could matter appear out of nothing?

energy creates matter
How did humans evolve to have consciousness?

nobody knows exactly how for we dont have information on our own species that far back in time. but my guess is brain development ovver millions of years
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sorry for the double post i accidentally hit the submit button =(.

If you would go to hell...how would you feel eternal pain if you left your body and brain with your nerves behind?

your soul.
How powerful is the human mind?

humans are the smartest thing on this planet so pretty dang powerfull. (id like to see a fucking dolphin make an ipad)
How old is the universe?

somewhere in the trillions of years i think correct me if im wrong.
Why do I look at things from a perspective of a nonhuman being?

cause thats what humans do.
Why do some Christians shut off their minds to science?

stereotype......... im a christian and i believe in all science has proven.
Why is science considered a religion?

HAHAHA scientollogy is MUCH MUCH MUCH different then jsut believing in science. im not even going to get into it
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What is time?


As 314d1 said, A relative measurement.

If there is a god, what created him and how?


Most will say nothing, though this argument then requires asking why this can't then be applied to matter/energy since matter/energy can't be created or destroyed just changed.
Some indication from the Dead Sea scrolls indicate a pantheon of Gods rather then a singular monotheism (many like to point to this as evidence of the trinity) But if this pantheon is the case then Yahweh was created by El.

Who wrote the Bible?(proof?)


A number of people over a vast amount of time, no one knows exactly who they were.

Ar questions just as important as answers?


I think they are, the more questions we ask the more we seek answers.

If everything was just created, what was it created from?


Matter/Energy

How could matter appear out of nothing?


First off what is nothing? Many would say it's a void, but even this is something. We really don't have a physical example of true nothing, least from a quantum perspective.

How did humans evolve to have consciousness?


Same way other species did, as a means of survival. Those with awareness of there surroundings had a better chance of surviving then those who did not. Over time this ability became more complex and turned into consciousness as we have it today.

If you would go to hell...how would you feel eternal pain if you left your body and brain with your nerves behind?


There have been people who have claimed to have out of body experiences of going to hell and have said that you do feel pain. Some theists claim the pain you feel is more on an emotional level then physical. Though non of this makes any sense since as you said no brain, no nerves, thus no feeling.

How powerful is the human mind?


The human brain (your mind) is the most complex on this planet. So I would say it's the most powerful we know of.

How old is the universe?


Roughly 13.7 billion years.

Why do I look at things from a perspective of a nonhuman being?


Can't say for sure, maybe it's your way of trying to see things from a different perspective?

Why do some Christians shut off their minds to science?


fear, closed mindedness, preferring fantasy over reality, believing other peoples lies about science...

Why is science considered a religion?


It's a fallacy created to try and put theory on the same footing as assertion. Religion is entirely based on faith (lack of proof), science is entirely based on proof.
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Most will say nothing, though this argument then requires asking why this can't then be applied to matter/energy since matter/energy can't be created or destroyed just changed.
Some indication from the Dead Sea scrolls indicate a pantheon of Gods rather then a singular monotheism (many like to point to this as evidence of the trinity) But if this pantheon is the case then Yahweh was created by El.


its because god isnt matter nor energy. thats what i belive anyway =D

There have been people who have claimed to have out of body experiences of going to hell and have said that you do feel pain. Some theists claim the pain you feel is more on an emotional level then physical. Though non of this makes any sense since as you said no brain, no nerves, thus no feeling.

again as i said. youre body isnt the thing going to hell.

fear, closed mindedness, preferring fantasy over reality, believing other peoples lies about science...

lol dumb stereotypes........
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How could matter appear out of nothing?


Nothing is not a very good concept since it doens't exist, even nothing is something.

Are questions just as important as answers?


Equally important.

Ignoring religious question since I would just be stateing 314d1.
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its because god isnt matter nor energy. thats what i belive anyway =D


So? Why can't we apply the concept of "nothing created it, it always existed" to matter/energy? God not being matter/energy seems inconsequential.

again as i said. youre body isnt the thing going to hell.


All you said was "your soul". We have no clear definition of what a soul is, what it's capable of, or even if it exists at all. If your soul is capable of feeling then why do people who suffer from nerve damage are unable to feel with there soul instead?

lol dumb stereotypes........


Not saying this fits everyone, but I have seen each one of those be used. I have seen people try and deny science because of fear of what it means about God, I have seen it for simply being closed minded tot he theories, I have seen where people just feel more comfortable (sometimes also getting into the fear aspect) and don't want there religious bubble popped, I've seen plenty just mindlessly quote others talking about how wrong science is because it denies X thing in X religious text.
The second and last ones seem to be the most frequent with a bit of the others thrown in from time to time.
So basically it's an unwillingness, being given misinformation, or both as to why people would shut there minds to science..
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inconsequential.

what? i dont think you used the right word.

Not saying this fits everyone,


this doesnt fit the majority of christians which is why its a stereotype. like when people say all german people are nazi's. not really ANY
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german people are nazi's still. so its like you meet one person then it aplies to all?? how does that work?

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what? i dont think you used the right word.


meaning: illogical , irrelevant
No I used the right word.

this doesnt fit the majority of christians which is why its a stereotype. like when people say all german people are nazi's. not really ANY


Fit's most fo the ones I've run into who do that.
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What is time?

Nothing but a concept made by man, simply. A concept that is there to measure itself, and that is relative to the subject at hand. Considering it is a concept of man, it still controls humanity by large.
If there is a god, what created him and how?

Whatever reply will be said to this, it will be nothing but speculations.
To take a more metaphysical way of explaining it, though:
There is a god. There are actually more than one, and they are made from the human consciousness and imagination, fears and wishes. Whether you believe in a god or not, the fact that religion and faith is still a part of people's lives shows that the god does exist.
Who wrote the Bible?(proof?)

It should be a collection of many different writings done by a number of people of which we know little or nothing. For further information, have this link from the top of my google search.
Are questions just as important as answers?

What a philosophical question. I consider questions to be more important than answers, simply because it gives a bit of mystique to life, and because the answers are unable to be 100 percent correct. Too much knowledge, whether it is correct or incorrect gives a sense of power, and power corrupts.
If everything was just created, what was it created from?

Considering which way you plan on seeing this, it could have done how religions describe it, how theories describe it, or you can simply conclude it is not an answer that will alter your life in any way, and ignore it.
How could matter appear out of nothing?

To take the rubber band theory of science, it did not. The universe deflated into a tiny point, where it inflated again in what we call the Big Bang.
One of the basic laws of nature is that nothing can be created from nothing, so either way, it would have been created from something.
In the way of the Bible: God did it. From clay. Or something.
How did humans evolve to have consciousness?

Being self aware? Having an intelligence to be able to communicate through signs and speech alike? It was either that, or being able to defend and survive in any other way. The basic evolution through survival of the fittest would give beings with a higher intelligence a better stand in life, and curiosity and the playfulness of humans simply did that we continued to invent, find answers and develop ourselves.
"Intelligent selection" can be paired with this to give an outcome like this.
If you would go to hell...how would you feel eternal pain if you left your body and brain with your nerves behind?

1. Thought, emotions and senses are all just electrical impulses. Technically all you would need was a consciousness based on impulses.
2. Considering I think you are referring to the biblical hell, you are going to take your body with your to heaven or hell.
3. In event of a soul, it would probably be metaphysical pain that would impact on your soul for it to be shredded and feel pain.
How powerful is the human mind?

Powerful enough to alter reality.
Just look at a paranoid schizophrenic. They believe that someone is out to kill them, and to them, this is real.
Just think of what lies and misunderstandings have changed our world. The media paints the world with certain colours, and this will be considered reality.
For all you know, it could be all in your mind.
How old is the universe?

Quite old.
Why do I look at things from a perspective of a nonhuman being?

I have no idea. Why do you?
If you talk about giving animals or objects human features (the dog is sad, the trees looks mean), it is because humans have a way of anthropomorphising non-human beings to make them more like them, or to understand them better.
For this one, I just seem to never look at things from a human, or my side. Though something could be annoying for me and help animals or plants, I side with the plants or animals instantly.

Anthropomorphising, most likely, then. That, and you are probably brought up to oddly antisocial when it comes to humans.
Why do some Christians shut off their minds to science?

Because that type of Christians are acting like idiots.
On the other hand, so does certain Atheists.
This ties with the power of the human mind. If you believe something is true, and can justify it however to yourself, then it must be true. Then it does not matter how other thinks, they are wrong, and you have no reason to talk to them, and if you do, you will try to make them see the light. Whether this light is that their religion is right, or that all things that cannot be measured and sensed is wrong.
Why is science considered a religion?

It is? Probably because some people act like they are religious fanatics about science. Or that they seem to almost worship the answers science gives them.

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fear, closed mindedness, preferring fantasy over reality, believing other peoples lies about science...

Fantasy has a habit of being better than reality. Escapism shows this.
I do doubt that that is why that kind of Christians turn away from science as a solution. It seems more to me that it is closed mindedness, along with believing people are lying. And that they have been brought up to find it to be the only truth. If they along with that has been attacked by fanatic Atheists about their religion, they are more than likely to develop a defending shield based on their religion, and thus cast away any argument that does not fit their view.

It's a fallacy created to try and put theory on the same footing as assertion. Religion is entirely based on faith (lack of proof), science is entirely based on proof.

I would say it was more a search of finding the truth more than proof, considering what science is made out of is theories. Unless you are a positivist and stand stubbornly on the side of "if it can't be measured or sensed, it is not there", there is no such things as proofs, only a constantly falsified string of theories that move towards, but probably never will reach, an ultimate truth.

stereotype......... im a christian and i believe in all science has proven.

I am going to point out he did write "Some". The point that you are responding that way to something not directed at you makes it seem like it actually is directed at you, thus showing you are turning your back on science.

That is rather Hippocratic Kirby, as using your logic, you are saying that god exists no matter what thus making you the closed minded one.

To him it might be true.
I wonder which is more hypocritical. Kirby stating that God has no end or beginning (considering the question is hypothetically stating that God does exist), or you who states that God does not exist, totally ignoring the question, and pointing out Kirby is being hypocritical for replying to the question.

Woooosh!
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I think all his questions have been answers...

I can shut off my mind to Science in school and its pretty easy.Just don't listen to what the teachers saying.LOL.Anyways I'm not Christian.

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What is time?


continuous line without begining or end
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