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Billiam13579
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Who do you think is responsible for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?

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wajor59
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Obamas response to the oil spill is the equivalent, if not worse than Bushs response to Katrina.


At least Bush was honest when he said he "would only be in the way of the rescuers".
I do blame OSHA and other government agencies for falling asleep during their inspections. Or, did they fail to show up?
Avorne
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Why don't we just let the oil spill out into the gulf? As far as I can see, the Americans are already really annoyed, might as well get revenge for all their stupid friendly-fire and oil obsessed warfare that dragged the rest of the world down with it.

MoonFairy
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Uhm Avorne, I take great offense to that because I live in the gulf. Alot of peoples jobs down here are ruined, families are moving away, and tourism is down by about 30%. Life sucks down here already beause of the humidity, and I don't want my life to be in the crap hole just because people aren't willing to help clean up and/or fix BP's fucked up issue.

Avorne
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-sigh- You're right - I didn't think about the human cost of it. I was more concerned with your government than the people. All I resent is the way in which everybody in America has seemingly turned against Britain as a whole - I was defending my home as you're defending yours. I equally blame BP but believe the blame should stop with them and not with Britain as a whole.

MoonFairy
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I don't blame Britain just cause BP says British Pertroleum XD I call BP Broken Pipe Actually. Why would people blame your nation? That is just stupid lol XD

Avorne
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You should see the media hype over here. Every news outlet you look at is saying 'The American people blame Britain', not in those words but as a general statement.

CommanderDude7
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Im surprised not every newspaper is shouting for Green's head after his amazing block in the game yesterday.

MoonFairy
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That sucks. I haven't met anyone down here that says they blame Britain as a whole T T

Avorne
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I wish someone would put the media straight then. Anyway, lets hope that BP get their damn act together and make sure this doesn't happen again.

MoonFairy
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God I hope so. My mom is looking into buying a house waaaaayyyy up north. probably north western area. T T Ima have a weird accent! NUUU!

wajor59
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Here's what happened in my part of the world, last night/after midnight two Interstates closed and we can only blame lightning.
Avorne, sometimes you have to stop watching the news because the only way they think they can sell it is to exploit the worst parts of it. Their will always be idiots who believe BP is the only company at fault but as far as I see it the government inspectors had better be doing their job on all oil rigs before hurricane season cranks up!

Moon Fairy, I'm surprised the Gulf States haven't received help from other states yet. NC was quick to respond after hurricane Katrina as well as SC, Georgia, etc.? Please don't leave the south unless your mom finds a really great job because disasters happen, everywhere.

Moegreche
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What about the waste from the nuclear plants? If that is our only clean energy option I cant wait for 2012.


Are you suggesting that nuclear power plants are going to lead to some sort of apocalyptic scenario? And I would only suggest it as a first step toward clean energy. Like I said before - even with electric cars, they still would have to be powered by coal power plants.
The alternatives are limited:
solar power - inefficient and very costly
hydroelectric - limited by geography, harmful to ecosystem
geothermal - promising, but limited in availability and effectiveness
wind - also very limited, requires vast amounts of land

Simply put, fossil fuels are easy. The infrastructure is already in place, and so a switch to any new form of energy is going to be costly and time consuming. But the fact of the matter is that nuclear power is incredibly safe, incredibly power, incredibly cheap, and the know-how and infrastructure are somewhat in place.

I realize the dangers of having nuclear waste and the problems of containment. That would certainly have to be addressed if this project were to move forward. This might seem too science-fictiony, but I could see small rockets being used to shoot nuclear waste directly into the sun.

But the technological advances we need to truly have an alternative energy economy are decades away from being realized. In the meantime, nuclear power will provide a cheap and reliable source of energy that is more than capable to getting us to the next phase of energy production.
I keep reading about efforts to produce a contained field of hydrogen fusion - the same process that is used to fuel our sun. As far as the ratio of energy produce:waste produce, this process is about as good as it gets. I don't know if truly containing this kind of reaction as a reliable source of energy is physically possible, but I firmly believe it should be an avenue that is pursued with fervency and urgency.
Moegreche
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Moon Fairy, I'm surprised the Gulf States haven't received help from other states yet. NC was quick to respond after hurricane Katrina as well as SC, Georgia, etc.?


These coastal states are being very picky about the kind of help they want. With Katrina, there was such a huge mess that it was really an "all hands on deck" kind of scenario. But with the oil spill, the city isn't destroyed, only certain aspects of the economy.
So members of these affected communities insist on using only local labor to help with the cleanup. In fact, in Bayou La Batre (no idea how to spell it), there was a protest because people were using boats from other states to assist in the cleanup. Simply put, the cleanup roles should be filled by those who have lost work because of the spill.
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there was a protest because people were using boats from other states to assist in the cleanup


Well, I guess we can let them be idiots.

Simply put, the cleanup roles should be filled by those who have lost work because of the spill.


These people are having their lives destroyed. Shouldn't they be more concerned about the Gulf than their town pride? Using just local labour is outrageously stupid, because there's simply not enough of it to protect the entire Louisiana Delta from this spill. We need local labour, BP, and out-of-state to actually get an effective cleanup started. The government doesn't have enough, BP doesn't have enough(or is at least not using ample resources), the locals don't have enough, and the out-of-state don't have enough - so why not pool everyone together?
Moegreche
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Using just local labour is outrageously stupid, because there's simply not enough of it to protect the entire Louisiana Delta from this spill.


The communities are fishing communities. That means they have boats that are available and, because of the oil, they literally have no other means of income.
It's fine to bring in outside help once the manpower within the community is exhausted, but that hasn't happened yet. I mean, if everyone in the community was already working on the cleanup, there wouldn't be anyone available to protest.
BP also promised to hire local workers so they could have an income will this crisis is dealt with. These people have boats and businesses to pay for, mortgages, bills, etc. Without work, these people lose their livelihood and marine industries (like fishing) will likely never recover.

Yes, we want the oil spill to be cleaned up as soon as possible. But the resources available even to the crews that are already on site is severely limited. These local fishermen were promised, and have every right, to get work helping with the cleanup.
When, and only when, local resources are exhausted should outside labor be brought in.
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