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Some theist state that there religion is good because it gives them a moral code. But if that is the case, then why let a religion with a good moral code die? The Greek Myths may not have a set moral code, but I will use the examples set by the Greek heroes as morals.

On killing:

The Greek heroes had no aversion to killing, at least to there enemies.

Christianity swings both ways on this one. They say "Thout shalt not kill" but have billions killed in holey ways.

I will consider this one a tie, as it depends on how you look at it.

On Woman:

The Greek myths value women to a degree. There were several goddesses and some Greek heroes even went to the extend of going into the land of the dead to save there wives.

The Bible regards women as less then men. The characters tend to not care when there wives are turned into pillars of salt and have multiple wives.

Point for the Greek.

Homosexuality:

The Greek seemed to have no problem with it, in fact, Apollo swung both ways and had male lovers.

The Biblical god hates homosexuality.

Point Greek.

Researching and gaining knowledge:

The Greeks are all for it. Many of there heroes use intellect and wit to get out of sticky situations and they have a goddess assigned to wisdom.

The Bible seems to not care about any wisdom that is not gods and there heroes, such as "Peter and John ... were unlearned and ignorant men", and things telling you to be ignorant.

Point Greek.

lies:

The Greek heroes and gods lie often to save themselves and others trouble. They don't even pretend to be benevolent.

The God of the Bible have harsh punishments for small lies. It once more swings both ways on this, as god and his prophets had lied. "Say, I pray thee, thouart my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee."

So a point to either depending on how you look at it.

Steeling:

The Greeks have little problem with it and actually have a god of thieves.

The Bible still swings both ways. The tend commandments say not to steel, but then god turns around and tells them to "Burrow" the Egyptians things. And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment:

Still depends on how you look at it.

Sex:

The Greek had no problem with sex. It created many of there heroes and filled their stories.

The Bible swings both ways(Surprise surprise!). The ten commandments and other things say it is bad, yet angels, prophets, and ordinary people have sex all the time in the stories. Some times with people they are not even married to or even family members, as in the case of Drunken Lot.

Depends how you look at it still.

Sacrifice:

The Greek sacrificed periodically for the enjoyment of there non omnipotent gods. They did not sacrifice human often in the stories, save if they really pissed a god off, and even then they some times live happily ever after.

The Christian god was not opposed to human sacrifices, he even killed a few for that purpose, yet the newer books state to not sacrifice any more because of the divine human sacrifice.

Still depends on how you look at it...

In conclusion, why choose Christianity from a purely moral bases if other religions that you think are totally preposterous have equil, some times better, morals?

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For a Bible online, this basically has the entire Bible in NIV. If you were wondering.


This is the entire Bible online in several versions.
http://bible.cc/
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And it came to pass that he returned to his own house at Jerusalem; and he cast himself upon his bed, being overcome with the Spirit and the things which he had seen. And being thus overcome with the Spirit, he was carried away in a vision, even that he saw the heavens open, and he thought he saw God sitting upon his throne, surrounded with numberless concourses of angels in the attitude of singing and praising their God. And it came to pass that he saw One descending out of the midst of heaven, and he beheld that his luster was above that of the sun at noon-day. And he also saw twelve others following him, and their brightness did exceed that of the stars in the firmament. 1 Nephi 1:7-10


I believe that there are other verses, but angels are singing meaning you sing in heaven of god's praise is suggestive.

Moses did not wish to leave his people, so he went to exile with them.


And he was banned from the holly land for tapping a rock instead of speaking to it.
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Nope. He taps the rock, gets the water, and shuts up the Jews.

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20:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.


He taps the rock, he gets banned according to this.
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Exodus?

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My favorite novel.

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However much entertainment you need in heaven.

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God sort of amuses himself with the most interesting stories, doesn't he ?


Yah. Like when he destroyed Job's stuff. It seems that he actually did most if it himself, such as the god's fire. That seemed to entertain him. Or when he burned some people for offering strange fire, he enjoyed that to.
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He also likes kids behind computers thinking they're cool for trying to diss God. But hey who DOESN'T like that?

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That was because of Satan. God only allowed it to go to a certain point, and did Job decide that he would avenge his displacing of things? I marvel at Job's great faith. Nurvana LOL


An omnipotent god took a bet with a well meaning Angel. Witch ended up in one of them killing his family, live stock, and servants. He then replaced his property with better ones, witch included his family. And even if he did not want to say it, the damage was god's fault.
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And Job got the hook up in heaven.

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To homosexual... If you think about it, they defy their parent's decisions, and all of their ancestors.


It is a birth problem that they can not control. It would be like being against a blind or lame man. Witch the Bible is, or leastwise David who does everything that is wright is.
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I find the comparison between the two a little off key. They were made completely different cultures, and run completely different belief systems.

And the only reason Christianity still exists is because they found a knack at running from the Romans, and then they adopted the belief system. Had Christianity not been initiated into the Romans belief system, it wouldn't exist as it does today. It would still be considered a cult (which the catholic church is, in every aspect other than size).

Anyways, I find the bibles conflicting and occasionally seriously screwed up moral code to be pathetic. The only proper code is the ten commandments, and those shouldn't even have to be written. THEY ARE COMMON SENSE.

Anyways, I'll just live by my own little moral code which suits me just fine. Me and my five principles are fine by me.

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Do you think God punishes people for his own amusement?


Yes. And woopy. He got pretty daughters. All he had to do was have his old ones killed. That is a nice moral: Don't care if your family is killed as long as your new ones are prettier.

God didn't do that for nothing either.


Yah. He did it to win a bet with Satan. Another good reason.

God might be a jealous God, but he does love everybody, more than we can ever imagine. Seriously. You have no idea.


So he tortures people that he loves forever because he loves them. That is good logic. "Hey, why are you driving a pitchfork threw my heart?"
"Because I love you!"
"Then why don't you let me go?"
"Be-case you were bad"
"How was I bad?"
"You did not believe in me, so here you are"

That is fair, just, and loving, punishing people because of there culture...
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Saw four generations of grandchildren. Oh yes God is cruel.

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