So I've spent some time responding my thoughts of the current American political situation and I figure it's time to make a thread about it.
To being let's discuss my background: Three years ago when I joined this site I was a staunch conservative and patriot. Now I'm a left-leaning, anti-American, indie kid that your Republican grandfather has warned you about.
Now onto the American political system it's a system controlled by two parties who are controlled by corporations. That's it; they buy votes then try to keep you happy but as the record shows the generally public opinion is generally wrong. Presidents that the public loves turn out to be terrible and presidents that the public hated turn out to be some of America's greatest presidents.
These two parties are so corrupt that they do anything to stop the other even if they agree with what they are doing. Both parties suck; end of story. The time has come to redo the American political system with drastic measures; going as far as dismantling the two major parties and making it illegal to have less than three equal parties.
Left Wing: New Democratic Party (NDP) Middle: Liberal Right Wing: Conservative
Now, the main power lies in the Conservative and Liberal parties, but lately we have seen a rise in support for the NDP's, which I must say is a good thing. We also have the Green Party, but they haven't even got a seat yet soo... they don't count. Also, Canada encourages new political views, until the 1950s it was only Conservative and Liberal. Within 50 years we earned two parties Green and NDP.
Now, the main power lies in the Conservative and Liberal parties, but lately we have seen a rise in support for the NDP's, which I must say is a good thing. We also have the Green Party, but they haven't even got a seat yet soo... they don't count. Also, Canada encourages new political views, until the 1950s it was only Conservative and Liberal. Within 50 years we earned two parties Green and NDP.
Well to be fair America has five "large" parties-Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green, Constitution-but only two of these have any power in the federal government.
Oh and there's the Tea Party movement but I pray to God that it doesn't gain support; but it is making people care a bit more and has created the Coffee Party (which I subscribe to).
Right; out of curiosity does the Canadian government give funds to any of the political parties? The US funds those that get 2% or more of the nation's vote.
Oh and there's the Tea Party movement but I pray to God that it doesn't gain support; but it is making people care a bit more and has created the Coffee Party (which I subscribe to).
You're SOL. They're going to make the democratic control crumble.
Well, my views on the issue are far more extreme than I should mention. Let's just say 'violent uprising' fits me perfectly.
I'm all for open revolt although I would prefer a mainly peaceful approach.
I'm fairly certain that you're not going to get through to the government with peaceful negotiations. These aren't human rights violations, so they're about as useful as every other peaceful protest.
That's why I support revolt. The government doesn't know how to handle itself, and no longer listens to the people, the very people that give them their jobs. That, and I'm fairly positive, depending on who's in control, the military will be very unwilling to openly engage citizens. The military is the people in a sense, they aren't being paid any more than those revolting.
That's why I support revolt. The government doesn't know how to handle itself, and no longer listens to the people, the very people that give them their jobs. That, and I'm fairly positive, depending on who's in control, the military will be very unwilling to openly engage citizens. The military is the people in a sense, they aren't being paid any more than those revolting.
So are we talking about a rightist revolt or a leftist revolt here?
Also, no offence, but screw the people; the general populace has no idea what's good for them.
Also, no offence, but screw the people; the general populace has no idea what's good for them.
That's why they're the guineas and those who know what's good for themselves direct the guineas. They think they know what's good for them, and you must appease them, because these are people who think dying for a cause that's pointless it worth it.
So are we talking about a rightist revolt or a leftist revolt here?
Take your pick. It would still take days, even weeks for anyone to stop you. I'm a rightist, so that's my revolt. You're a leftist, so you would do your thing. Either way, we both hate the current government.
They think they know what's good for them, and you must appease them, because these are people who think dying for a cause that's pointless it worth it.
Nah; they can just suck it up and wait for the democratic process they should have a bit more of a reason to die for something than social progress.
Take your pick. It would still take days, even weeks for anyone to stop you. I'm a rightist, so that's my revolt. You're a leftist, so you would do your thing. Either way, we both hate the current government.
But for completely different reasons. We may fight together but in the end we would have to fight amongst ourselves.
But for completely different reasons. We may fight together but in the end we would have to fight amongst ourselves.
With any kind of reform, that's what happens. You end up with internal divisions.
I say a perfect ratio of conservatives to liberals would be perfect. 50-50. One in control of the other doesn't appease the people who don't like those in power. Which causes everyone's neighborhood tea party movement.
Nah; they can just suck it up and wait for the democratic process they should have a bit more of a reason to die for something than social progress.
Democratic process is sloooooooooooow.
But, it's still better than dying RUF style. >.>
I just support it, and would fight if it ever came around. I'm not going to go around shooting them without leaders.
Which is really what is needed for political reform. Not an old bureaucrat like the people in office, but someone who wants to end the old system. Revolt is nice, but as you said, peace first. Then revolt.
After that, corruption and lobbyists took total control after Clinton.
When Reagen took office, Capitalist Business intertwined with Democracy. That's when really our democracy fell apart when the rich can essentially control our government. Lobbyists and Corporation funded elections became more visible.
