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halo4man
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let the debate begin!!!

to start of how was the first cell created. Life cannot come from unliving things

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MageGrayWolf
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Least this one is better titled.

But...

to start of how was the first cell created. Life cannot come from unliving things


Evolution isn't about the formation of life, it's just about how life changes. The theory that deals with how life began is called abiogenesis, a completely different theory.
Hypermnestra
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Again, shouldn't this be in Atheism vs Christianity?

halo4man
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wow I never knew that. but evolution and Evolution are to different things (you know the drill) can I get you to agree that Evolution is still a theory and not a fact?

SubZero131
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Again, shouldn't this be in Atheism vs Christianity?


surprisingly some "Christians" believe in evoulution, or that life was created by God and then evolved. Creationism doesnt only deal with christianity
Hypermnestra
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wow I never knew that. but evolution and Evolution are to different things (you know the drill) can I get you to agree that Evolution is still a theory and not a fact?

Well...yeah, but so is religion. And of course, calling it a theory won't really do anything. Like...Einstein's Theory of Relativity, for example. Theory!
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can I get you to agree that Evolution is still a theory and not a fact?


can i get you to agree that GOD is still a theory and not a fact?????

"No amount of belief makes something a fact." - James Randi
SirNoobalot
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p of course i can't because most of 'you' are not able to come down to my level that there might be an existence of evolution, as i am at the level that there might be the existence of god. But no 'you' people are too holed up in your own little world to see other people's opinions and respect them.

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i bielieve in evoluton cause i find it hard to bilieve theres an old bearded man in the sky who made us and shoots lightning

SirNoobalot
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'You' believe that yours and no one elses are right, just because you think so. in 'bashing' on some things about creation, i am only explaining what has been asked and explaining my beliefs on things. But i guess i'm damned to hell then because i am a godless heretic, who chose to take up 'god' 's offer on free will by following what i think is best, but no, i guess there's that one exception that you believe in me or i torture you for eternity.... GREAT CHOICES from an all loving being!

MageGrayWolf
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Again, shouldn't this be in Atheism vs Christianity?


No not really. This works as it;s own topic. I also think the title is more appropriate then the last dedicated thread to this topic.

wow I never knew that. but evolution and Evolution are to different things (you know the drill) can I get you to agree that Evolution is still a theory and not a fact?


There is the fact of evolution and there is the theory of evolution so it's both. However if we are to go with the "just a theory argument a scientific theory is just the explanation of the facts. An explanation in science is the most important thing you can have. So "just a theory" doesn't lessen it any but elevates it.
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can i get you to agree that GOD is still a theory and not a fact?????


No, because God isn't a theory it's an assertion. One further compounded when speaking of a specific god/s.

But anyway halo4man? What evidence do you have for creation?
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God this is going to be a long post

Well...yeah, but so is religion. And of course, calling it a theory won't really do anything. Like...Einstein's Theory of Relativity, for example. Theory!


I have to Agree with you there Hyper GOD is just a theory as it cannot be proven definatly. and as far as the theory of gravity it really should be fact because you can prove it over and over (jump off a building) But Evolution (or Creation) cannot be proven over and over again Except for the fact that we have the wait for it wait FOR IT OMG the BIBLE (Enter Holy Choros) jk

and sir noobalot I can come down to your level I am not a blind Christian I dont try to yell at people to get my point across I just want to have a nice debate and really under stand the other point of veiw.
halo4man
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The fact that we have life is proof that we have a God or higer power.

the old chicken and egg game Where did the earth come from: the mass of rock surronding the sun where did that come from? The galaxy (dont want to get to nerdy) and where did the galaxy come from ..... the big bang and the big bang..... answer that without saying idk.

Hypermnestra
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The fact that we have life is proof that we have a God or higer power.

No, no it is not. And besides, that's not even part of evolutionism.
the old chicken and egg game Where did the earth come from: the mass of rock surronding the sun where did that come from? The galaxy (dont want to get to nerdy)

Well then, I will be the nerd here. Solar systems actually come from nebulae within the galaxy.
where did the galaxy come from ..... the big bang and the big bang..... answer that without saying idk.

Okay then. If you're going to play like that, then where did God come from? Answer that without saying he was never created and is always just there.
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I can come down to your level I am not a blind Christian I dont try to yell at people to get my point across I just want to have a nice debate and really under stand the other point of veiw.


well good for you then i got the wrong impression then.

on your post about the galaxyl, earth, and the big bang:

well the idea is that there was an uber packed ball of matter and energy, in fact all matter was packed into it. the size is undeterminable, it is an unknown, but either way that is completely irrelevant the size. for whatever reason this ball blew up, and there was DEATH AND BLOOD AND DESTRUCTION [/sarcasm]. then you have one giant expanding cloud of matter and energy. as things are attracted to each other ( cite the law pl0x if you're reading this and know it), this cloud eventually began becoming attracted to itself and started separated into smaller clouds. these clouds are also known as 'nebulas'. again following the same laws, they kept getting smaller and smaller and more numerous. at some point it accelerates quickly, forming galaxies, and again, forming smaller clouds that stars will form in. in these star nurseries, not everything is used for the star, so then the leftover matter began getting attracted to the star(s), and then you have a star with of big cloud of dust around it... this dust, following the same idea, became attracted to itself and formed big balls of matter, which would more or less form a planet. not everything was solid though, which is why there are gas giants like jupiter and saturn. the ones that did have more solids would form planets, as at one point they would develop enough mass to become attracted to itself and become round therefore ( something to do w/ physics). and from there you have your explanation of planets, galaxies, and the big bang .

WOW that was long...
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