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I read about this before. Oh well, it's the the thought that counts.

it's the the thought that counts.

The small figurine in the foreground is what it should look like when finished, and they've been working on it for over 60 years.

No joke. The statue took a much shorter time. Why the slow process? Mount Rushmore only took a couple years to fully sculpt.

If Crazy Horse so wished that he did not leave his image, why do so? You can make a memorial/biography/remembrance something without having a portrait/picture/photo of him.

*shrugs* meh I don't care much either way. It's just a sculpture.

I've visited the memorial in person. When he was figuring out who to carve in the mountain, Korczak Ziolkowski talked to Native American cheifs about who they beileved should represent them. The agreement they came to was Crazy Horse. Mount Rushmore was suposed to be the full busts of the presidents, not just the heads, but the government pulled the plug on the project due to how costly it was.

The rest of the museum on the grounds beneath the mountain will eventually become a college for Native Americans, with the museum as a centerpiece. The whole project is founded privately, with no government involvement at all due to how much trouble the government is with founding projects like this and such.

There are issues as you have pointed out, but look at the big picture, like why it's being built. Native Americans are being involved in the process. They are the focus of something that should benefit them.

Mount Rushmore was suposed to be the full busts of the presidents, not just the heads, but the government pulled the plug on the project due to how costly it was.

i heard it was a little of both moe, and this is a damn rock, carve it if you want, in a thousand years what will it matter, its art, and it is in his constitutional rights to do whatever he wants as long as its not grossly offensive, which doesn't seem to matter to most americans anymore. but all in all it seems its gunna be a while b4 its finished anyway, we have plenty of time to decide whether its moral or not.

*shrug* It's kinda funny, if you think about it. We(white folks) feel guilty about what we did to the Native Americans, so we build a huge monument on their sacred mountain that is basically an affront to all of them. It is just so ironic it makes me laugh.
And also; it's ridiculously expensive right?
I think of it as like putting a giant statue of Moses on Zion and Moses is flipping the bird, and it cost "HOLY EFFING CRAP THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY!" amounts of money to build. That's how I think of this statue.

still, freedom..... it counts

Huh? Oh, I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to build it...I'm saying it's a bad idea, but I also get that they can if they want to.

right right, this goes with the mosque 'near' ground zero. its his right. i wish we had a native americans opinion in this damn forum.

The actual pose of the statue is of an actual moment of history, in where a white man asks Crazy Horse "Where are your lands now?", to which Crazy Horse responded "My lands are where my dead lie buried."
The statue depicts Crazy Horse pointing, apparently to where his lands are. But hand gestures don't exactly mean the same thing in every culture. To most Native Americans, pointing a finger is considered "rude and aggressive."

No joke. The statue took a much shorter time. Why the slow process? Mount Rushmore only took a couple years to fully sculpt.

The actual pose of the statue is of an actual moment of history, in where a white man asks Crazy Horse "Where are your lands now?", to which Crazy Horse responded "My lands are where my dead lie buried."
The statue depicts Crazy Horse pointing, apparently to where his lands are. But hand gestures don't exactly mean the same thing in every culture. To most Native Americans, pointing a finger is considered "rude and aggressive."

Good statue, good point, but I don't understand the deeper meaning in all of this