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holt24

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Posted October 3, '10 1:06am UTC

Actually, false. There is a book called "A Case For Christ" thats out. It's about a man who was a journalist and a lawyer who, after his wife got saved, sought out to find all the flaws of The Bible and Christianity. After the end of many years to find the flaws... there were none. He could not find a single piece of evidence that God didn't exist. There is also a movie about this.
But of course, why did I ever take the time to type a reply? When arrogant people like you will probably never watch the movie?

I watched the movie and read the book so take that world. But seriously you should watch the movie.

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HahiHa

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Posted October 3, '10 1:06am UTC

And, of course, they are doing it under the will of the GSM

You surely meant the FSM, not the GSM.

Duh. Can't prove me wrong.

In fact there's plenty of evidence the FSM exists. I mean, how big are the chances we have invented such a menu like spaghetty bolognese, if not by being Touched by His Noodly Appendages?

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Avorne

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Nomad

Posted October 3, '10 1:13am UTC

Since I'm sick of giving links that nobody reads, I'll just post a little bit of a list here of flaws in the Bible:

DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God.
DT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God.
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love.

PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 The scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).
(Note: Not every word of God can prove true if God deceives anyone at all; teaching from the Bible cannot be trusted if the scribes falsify the word. In other words, the first reference is mutually exclusive with the other three. Thus, the Bible cannot be the perfect work of a perfect, all-powerful and loving God since one or more of the above references is obviously untrue. Note also: Some versions use the word &quotersuade" rather than "deceives." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)

EZ 20:25 God says that he intentionally gave out bad laws. (This means that God-given laws or commandments are sometimes suspect.)

LK 1:26-38 The angel who appears to Mary to foretell the birth of Jesus says that Jesus will be given the throne of David, that he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and that his kingdom will never end. (None of this took place nor can it now be fulfilled.)

MT 16:28, MK 9:1, LK 9:27 Jesus says that some of his listeners will not taste death before he comes again in his kingdom. This was said almost 2000 years ago.
(Note: This passage and many others indicate that Jesus was to come again in a relatively short period of time and not just "quickly" as present day Biblicists assert. All of his listeners are now dead, yet Jesus has not come again in his kingdom. All of the alleged words of Jesus put forth in the Bible are therefore suspect.)

MK 16:17-18 A believer can handle snakes or drink poison and not experience any harm.
(Note: Many unfortunate believers have died as a result of handling snakes and drinking poison. This kind of assertion negates the Bible as a useful guidebook for life.)

Since I'm sick of giving links that nobody reads, I'll just post a little bit of a list here of flaws in the Bible:\r\n\r\n[quote]DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God.\r\nDT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God.\r\n1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love.\r\n\r\nPR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.\r\n1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.\r\nJE 8:8 The scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.\r\n2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).\r\n(Note: Not every word of God can prove true if God deceives anyone at all; teaching from the Bible cannot be trusted if the scribes falsify the word. In other words, the first reference is mutually exclusive with the other three. Thus, the Bible cannot be the perfect work of a perfect, all-powerful and loving God since one or more of the above references is obviously untrue. Note also: Some versions use the word "persuade" rather than "deceives." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)\r\n\r\nEZ 20:25 God says that he intentionally gave out bad laws. (This means that God-given laws or commandments are sometimes suspect.)\r\n\r\nLK 1:26-38 The angel who appears to Mary to foretell the birth of Jesus says that Jesus will be given the throne of David, that he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and that his kingdom will never end. (None of this took place nor can it now be fulfilled.)\r\n\r\nMT 16:28, MK 9:1, LK 9:27 Jesus says that some of his listeners will not taste death before he comes again in his kingdom. This was said almost 2000 years ago.\r\n(Note: This passage and many others indicate that Jesus was to come again in a relatively short period of time and not just "quickly" as present day Biblicists assert. All of his listeners are now dead, yet Jesus has not come again in his kingdom. All of the alleged words of Jesus put forth in the Bible are therefore suspect.)\r\n\r\nMK 16:17-18 A believer can handle snakes or drink poison and not experience any harm.\r\n(Note: Many unfortunate believers have died as a result of handling snakes and drinking poison. This kind of assertion negates the Bible as a useful guidebook for life.)[/quote]

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BlackVortex

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Nomad

Posted October 3, '10 1:16am UTC

how big are the chances we have invented such a menu like spaghetty bolognese,

It's true, I mean the spaghetti can't just appear out of nowhere?
Someone higher up than us must have given the recipe, and who better and more likely than the FSM, a mere human? pfft.

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314d1

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Nomad

Posted October 3, '10 1:31am UTC

You surely meant the FSM, not the GSM.

Nope. The FSM created everything. The GSM, Giant Spaggeti Monster, was his twin brother brought to him by Mario on the day of Talk Like a Pirate Day year 0. Duh.

Actually, false. There is a book called "A Case For Christ" thats out. It's about a man who was a journalist and a lawyer who, after his wife got saved, sought out to find all the flaws of The Bible and Christianity. After the end of many years to find the flaws... there were none. He could not find a single piece of evidence that God didn't exist. There is also a movie about this.
But of course, why did I ever take the time to type a reply? When arrogant people like you will probably never watch the movie?

My point is you can't prove a negative, in the case you can please disprove the GSM/FSM. And now I have a new theory, that you can't read. I have to take a shower now, but of the top of my head, THE KING JAMES VERSION HAS FRICKEN UNICORNS!

[quote]You surely meant the FSM, not the GSM. [/quote]\r\n\r\nNope. The FSM created everything. The GSM, Giant Spaggeti Monster, was his twin brother brought to him by Mario on the day of Talk Like a Pirate Day year 0. Duh. \r\n\r\n[quote]Actually, false. There is a book called "A Case For Christ" thats out. It's about a man who was a journalist and a lawyer who, after his wife got saved, sought out to find all the flaws of The Bible and Christianity. After the end of many years to find the flaws... there were none. He could not find a single piece of evidence that God didn't exist. There is also a movie about this.\r\nBut of course, why did I ever take the time to type a reply? When arrogant people like you will probably never watch the movie?[/quote]\r\n\r\nMy point is you can't prove a negative, in the case you can please disprove the GSM/FSM.  And now I have a new theory, that you can't read. I have to take a shower now, but of the top of my head, THE KING JAMES VERSION HAS FRICKEN UNICORNS!

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HahiHa

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Regent

Posted October 3, '10 1:38am UTC

Nope. The FSM created everything. The GSM, Giant Spaggeti Monster, was his twin brother brought to him by Mario on the day of Talk Like a Pirate Day year 0. Duh.

Dam, I need to get up to date..

My point is you can't prove a negative, in the case you can please disprove the GSM/FSM. And now I have a new theory, that you can't read. I have to take a shower now, but of the top of my head, THE KING JAMES VERSION HAS FRICKEN UNICORNS!

Unicorns? Wow, now that's something I'll want to read. Passage please! (after your shower of course; I gotta go sleeping soon anyway)

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314d1

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Nomad

Posted October 3, '10 1:54am UTC

Dam, I need to get up to date..

Naw. I make this crap up as I go along, like any good pasture.

Unicorns? Wow, now that's something I'll want to read. Passage please! (after your shower of course; I gotta go sleeping soon anyway)

Numbers 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Deuteronomy 33:17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

There also are more mythological creatures, dragon as everyone knows, cockatrice, giants, and satyrs.

And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. Isaiah 11:8

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent. Isaiah 14:29

For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 8:17

Isiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

[quote]Dam, I need to get up to date.. [/quote]\r\n\r\nNaw. I make this crap up as I go along, like any good pasture. \r\n\r\n[quote]Unicorns? Wow, now that's something I'll want to read. Passage please! (after your shower of course; I gotta go sleeping soon anyway)[/quote]\r\n\r\nNumbers 23:22  God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.\r\n\r\nDeuteronomy 33:17  His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.\r\n\r\nThere also are more mythological creatures, dragon as everyone knows, cockatrice, giants, and satyrs. \r\n\r\nAnd the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. Isaiah 11:8\r\n\r\nRejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent. Isaiah 14:29\r\n\r\nFor, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 8:17\r\n\r\nIsiah 13:21  But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.  \r\n\r\nGenesis 6:4  There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.   \r\n\r\nNumbers 13:33  And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

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MageGrayWolf

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Posted October 3, '10 5:36am UTC

Actually, false. There is a book called "A Case For Christ" thats out. It's about a man who was a journalist and a lawyer who, after his wife got saved, sought out to find all the flaws of The Bible and Christianity. After the end of many years to find the flaws... there were none. He could not find a single piece of evidence that God didn't exist. There is also a movie about this.
But of course, why did I ever take the time to type a reply? When arrogant people like you will probably never watch the movie?

[quote]Actually, false. There is a book called "A Case For Christ" thats out. It's about a man who was a journalist and a lawyer who, after his wife got saved, sought out to find all the flaws of The Bible and Christianity. After the end of many years to find the flaws... there were none. He could not find a single piece of evidence that God didn't exist. There is also a movie about this.\r\nBut of course, why did I ever take the time to type a reply? When arrogant people like you will probably never watch the movie?[/quote]\r\n\r\nThere has been enough arguments against this bit of reasoning already.\r\n\r\nI'm very much for hearing what the opposition has to say. You think we should watch this movie? Fine! I'll make it easy for everyone.\r\n\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYLHxcqJmoM]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 1 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6raodW5Ypt0]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 2 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKoiivfe_mo]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 3 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUC9drrEAVU]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 4 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pP8ENlWfRk]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 5 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwzzR0lUKw]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 6 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MVDiNl7bBM]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 7 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs5wGFbkb40]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 8 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CamNoA6Cfjc]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 9 of 10)[/url]\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idxRxIrybBs]The Case for a Creator (Chapter 10 of 10)[/url]\r\n\r\nJust from going through and copying these links so far all I've heard are fallacies. I will watch it though.\r\n\r\nHere's a review on the book.\r\n[url=http://www.bidstrup.com/apologetics.htm]http://www.bidstrup.com/apologetics.htm[/url]\r\n\r\nHere's the wiki page on the author.\r\n[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Strobel]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Strobel[/url]\r\n\r\nHere's the wiki page on the guy who did the review.\r\n[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Bidstrup]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Bidstrup[/url]\r\n\r\nHave fun everyone.

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MageGrayWolf

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Farmer

Posted October 3, '10 5:45am UTC

Just noticed it's The Case For A Creator I posted note A Case For Christ.

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MageGrayWolf

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Farmer

Posted October 3, '10 5:49am UTC

I will have to keep looking the only upload of the video I have found has parts blocked in the US. (likely due to false flagging)

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MageGrayWolf

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Farmer

Posted October 3, '10 7:05am UTC

Okay found it.
Lee Strobel (Case for the Christ) complete

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Strop

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Bard

Posted October 3, '10 7:32am UTC

Oh goodness me, we're on to apologetics?

I have to say, I have actually read that Lee Strobel Case for a Creator book, and I have to say, it's almost entirely fallacies... which I eventually found to be what the majority of Christian apologetics consisted off :|

Oh, and so smugly written!!!

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MageGrayWolf

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Farmer

Posted October 3, '10 9:44am UTC

Okay watched it. It would really take to long to go through and point out every fallacy, half truth, and flat out lie. The "evidence" presented in that video would only be enough to convince an idiot.

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zonic98

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Nomad

Posted October 3, '10 12:06pm UTC

we just simply cant know...

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BlackVortex

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Nomad

Posted October 3, '10 12:10pm UTC

That's dedication Mage, I don't think I could sit thru 1 minute of that stuff xD

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