The Virgin Mary is the mother of Jesus who was impregnated by god, as far as I know God never asked Mary if she was ok with this, so does this mean God raped Mary? What do you guy's think?
Though I suspect the real story goes more like this.
Soldier: But I got you pregnant he's going to know! Mary: No, No. Don't worry my husband's an idiot. He'll buy the whole immaculate conception story, trust me.
as far as I know God never asked Mary if she was ok with this
i think Joseph was more pissed off.
Don't worry my husband's an idiot. He'll buy the whole immaculate conception story, trust me.
who would believe that she was a virgin yet married to Joseph. and how could Joseph believe a story with a massive hole in it. that is, a virgin pregnancy.
Well considering that it was a "virgin birth" unless god impregnated her then re created the hymen. No she wasn't raped. And considering Joesph was her husband shouldn't he have known something about the 'virgin' he was married to?
Not sure about whether she was cool with it, but this also isn't the only 'virgin conception' myth in human religions. In fact, if you really want to get down to the nitty-gritty, it's painfully obvious that the myth of Jesus is a parallel to the Egyptian myth of their god Horus, and this myth is the most likely origin of the 'virgin birth'. This also makes sense because the Jews, from whom we get the stories of the Bible and Jesus, were Egyptian slaves for many years, and it's plain to see that much of Egyptian mythology crept into the Judean people.
Let's examine the Egyptian myth of Horus: Horus was born of a virgin as was Jesus. He became a great teacher to his people at the age of 30 and so did Jesus. He was the only son of the god Osiris, and Jesus was the only son of the god Yahweh. Horus' mother's name was Isis-meri, Jesus' mother's name was Miriam, now called Mary. Horus' foster father's name was Seb (also called Jo-sep) and Jesus' foster father's name was Joseph.
Anyway, there are more and more similarities which indicate that the myth of Horus so pervaded the Judean culture that it found it's way into the myths of Jesus. If you want to see a list of all the parallels of their myths, please visit this link here.
as far as I know God never asked Mary if she was ok with this, so does this mean God ***** Mary? What do you guy's think?
*facepalm*
Let's just say the story is true for sake of argument.
If Mary believed in god and further the messiah being born from a human then it would have been an honor for her to have the baby Jesus.
Think being so beautiful (or good in Mary's case) that the Emperor or king (God) would want them to have their child, or force them but perhaps not against their own will. Or, more likely, it was Mary's will to have the child something God would know as he is omniscient.
Again this answer is based solely on the idea god exists as described in the Christian bible.
Another point to make regarding the virgin birth, only 2 of the 4 gospels concede that there was a virgin birth. Mark makes no mention of it, and John didn't actually believe that it was a true virgin birth, but a metaphor. Kind of interesting that 'god's word to man' can't even agree with itself.
Mark's gospel is focused more on the latter part of Jesus's life so strictly from his gospel you can't determine if he believed in a virgin birth or not.
John didn't actually believe that it was a true virgin birth,
God never had sex with her, he just waved his finger at her then she was pregnant, she woke up one day and she was pregnant, she was playing checkers and she all of a sudden was pregnant, etc. Plus sex was a holy thing back then.
I've been looking up passages on Bible.com and a few others regarding the passages in which John wrote of Jesus. It is clear from his writings that, unlike Matthew and Mark, John believed unequivocally that Jesus was not born of flesh, but was in fact God incarnate, and as such viewed the 'virgin birth' metaphorically.
Well you need to be holy somewhere to have sex, at least here on earth.
I think the whole thing is a story, I dont think jesus was real and I also agree with mrwalker that the whole thing came from previous religions. (im pretty sure thats what ye are saying, sorry if not)
I think the whole thing is a story, I dont think jesus was real and I also agree with mrwalker that the whole thing came from previous religions. (im pretty sure thats what ye are saying, sorry if not)
Pretty much. Much of the mythology of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have stemmed from Egyptian and Babylonian myths, with some pagan traditions tossed in the mix (most notably in Christianity) as the religion spread into Europe and encountered the many pagan faiths.
Interestingly enough, Judaism was the first and was common during the time that the Jews were slaves to the Egyptians, which explains there adaptation of Egyptian myths. From that sprung Christianity and Islam. Christianity spread and adopted many traditions and myths of the territories it occupied, while Islam claims that although Judaism and Christianity acknowledge God and provided many great prophets, that Muhammad is the final prophet of God.
This is why Islam and Judaism remain largely unchanged, while Christianity has continued to adapt and adopt new traditions, myths, and ceremonies.
