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duanewheeler
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Well expecting alot from cod bo , but i think mw3 will rule all war games. What do you guys think?

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Elitemagical
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Sure a whole clip from my smg wont kill you, but my elbow smash will....


Sure, my entire ACR magazine will not kill you, but stabbing you in the foot is a guaranteed instant success! You say that at one end of the spectrum you're dissatisfied with the realism of Battlefield whilst simultaneously disliking Halo for not being true to real life. In the shooter genre you rarely find something in the middle.

Furthermore, Modern Warfare 2 is far more imbalanced than any Halo games. Sometimes in Halo the weapons feel a tad spontaneous, but if you bolted Gears of War-like battlesuits onto the soldiers in Modern Warfare 2 you could quite easily pass it off as a science fiction shooter what with all those sniper-rifle machine pistols and teleportation.
yugioh6123
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there is no more iw fails for cod fortunatley they are going to make other games so if there is a mw3 it will be made by the new dev sledgehammer

Highfire
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Furthermore, Modern Warfare 2 is far more imbalanced than any Halo games. Sometimes in Halo the weapons feel a tad spontaneous, but if you bolted Gears of War-like battlesuits onto the soldiers in Modern Warfare 2 you could quite easily pass it off as a science fiction shooter what with all those sniper-rifle machine pistols and teleportation.

If they 'oked' themselves with it in the Campaign, it'd be halirious. Like a guy shooting 5 bullets and they all hit but just go through the guy, then you knife (you run out of ammo), the enemy jumps up and u knife him in the foot. Ur mate just goes "Well that was strange..." in a scottish accent.

Or, you're chasing a dude and he jumps down a cliff you would die from, and your mate complains about that 'Commando' dude.
I know it's Marathon pro in Black Ops, but the guy you could be searching for is a Viet Cong Commando? Haha.

Can everyone agree that this is a good thing to do? Wouldn't it be funnier? (I personally can't think of a moment in the Campaign in which I laughed)

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its nearly here and i might no be able to play it im so buged off iys really bad timing but it happens

Highfire
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its nearly here and i might no be able to play it im so buged off iys really bad timing but it happens

:/ Why not?
This is why I save up my money. I got to get 3 games minimum over the next 8 months.
Black Ops - Not sure if I'm getting this, but if I do it'll take away some money, nothing too special.
StarCraft II - A definate buy, it could also be fairly steep in money, it's been a while since I checked prices.
Magicka - Only £5, so I'm definately getting this for the comedy it could provide (it's a generic fantasy world where it pokes itself for being exactly that), as well as the amount of dying involved.
Age of Empires Online - The base game is free, amazingly. Downloadable Content will have to be bought (ones that actually contain content and not fixes), which I'm not too sure I agree with. However one of the Community Managers over at Robot Entertainment stated that it will be a sizeable amount of content per DLC, so it would be like buying an expansion / something worth the money.
Fable III - Not sure I'm getting, I probably will since 2 of the games are basically free and Black Ops seems cheap as it is, StarCraft II is a bit pricey. Why not get this?

I've got about £215 ready to spend, but I don't feel the need to spend it all at once. I will immediately get Age of Empires Online, I think I'm getting straight to it and buying StarCraft II, I'll look how much Fable III is, and Magicka comes out around January 2011 I think. Black Ops? Meh. I don't feel all that okay with it, it's a Treyarch game, I haven't played any of their games so I'm eager to try it out - however given the reviews from 'eer pressure' and possibility for annoying kids? Gah. :/

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nonconformist
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Sure, my entire ACR magazine will not kill you, but stabbing you in the foot is a guaranteed instant success! You say that at one end of the spectrum you're dissatisfied with the realism of Battlefield whilst simultaneously disliking Halo for not being true to real life. In the shooter genre you rarely find something in the middle.

Ummm if you get shot by an ACR you die in like 6 shots... Thats why i get pissed off when people use it cuz its the cheapest weapon. Then again im on the ps3, so its no as lagged and glitchy as on the computer.. Still never once have i seen someone screw the pooch using an ACR. And yeah a knife is a one hit kill, because its used to balance everything. 1 burst from a famas or m16 normally kills you, or a couple shots out of most guns kill you. To have 2 stabs or 3 stabs killing a person would make it more unbalanced... Where as constantly shooting someone with a gun 30x over to kill them, and then 2 punches (or an assassination) kills them straight up, thats unbalanced

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You know, CoD 5 and 4 were great games but MW2's horribleness is making me a little nervous about buying black ops. It looks amazing w/o OMA, Commando, Danger close ect. Also no Slight of hand pro for snipers could have a mixed affect. It looks great, im not buying it until i know i will love it and i know that half of my friends will be 10th prestige in 2 week when somebody knows how to make a lobby.

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I hope Black Ops dosn't take over my life like MW2 did i had 20days on it. =(

locoace3
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I hope Black Ops dosn't take over my life like MW2 did i had 20days on it. =(


it already took over my bro (he's 24 he likes the game for what it is not just teh violence even though it is fun) life and now he just waits for it like a coiled snake >.>
crazenird
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i think black ops will be better then MW3 (if they maike one) because of the wager match alone....its gonna be awesome

BenTheBozer
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Don't worry guys I will keep you all informed about black ops next week, I promise.

Highfire
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it already took over my bro (he's 24 he likes the game for what it is not just teh violence even though it is fun) life and now he just waits for it like a coiled snake >.>

CoD4 took over my bros life.
He's spent over 2,200 hours on it, he's an arrogant turd nowadays. I hate him. :/

A funny thing is most CoD players hate on WoW players despite the fact that CoD players are often much, much sadder. The stereotypical WoW player isn't what the usual one is like (being as I've played both games, I know specifically).

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I love Battlefield and all, but they really screwed up Vietnam. All they brought was vietnamese style equipment and weapons, with no new mechanics etc. It's a cheap shot made by DICE to be honest. They could have done so much more, and they ruined it. :/
But, I may say a few things about Battlefield:
Battlefield 2: Special Forces featured a crossbow, if you shot it downwards from a building (there are several each map) then you could slide down the rope it shot for quick transport.
I believe the first Battlefield featuring Vietnam used Throwing Knives, so, in a way, MW2 copied Battlefield.
Also, a modification for Battlefield (I think was made by DICE) featured a jetpack, something used in Halo.
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I played bc2 until i was a level 44 then went back to mw2 because it was too slow for me, it was too agrivating too (god damned carl-gustavers and HC snipers) and the things you said about the throwing knife, mw2 was out before vietnam, so other way around, jetpacks dont exist btw. the best one got like 17 ft off the ground for a few seconds. and like you said, DICE is cheap. i mean really, kit shortcuts for $20! plus so many weapons were too alike. the only assault rifles that were very different from the rest are the m16, the F2000 and the AEK (much different handling skills envolved with them). and so many guns were superior to others, like the M60. the game was completely unbalanced and DICE did nothing but make it worse
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speaking of MW3. NO i just hope that doesnt happen because it will end the series. they cant remake the same game three times. it just signals no more ideas and the end will come. if anything make it a more futuristic cod, but not far into the future, just far enough for prototype weapons to become active and new weapons made, maybe even new ammunition types.

A different way for cod to remake their series is to throw in, not ww1, that would be camping in a trench, instead, civil war era gameplay. the guns would be innaccurate though and it wouldnt be as fun, but tweak that maybe? or midievel call of duty with crossbows of different types of different countries, and spear n stuff. that would be interesting, but again, it would kill the series because the game probably wouldnt be a big success and it would show ideas ran out.

you have to consider past, present, and future plus realism, and much of the past has terrible weapons. the only way to make them better and appeal to the casual gamers is to make it unrealistic which doesnt appeal to the hardcore gamers and the sales would be bad.

Highfire
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mw2 was out before vietnam, so other way around

FIRST Battlefield featuring Vietnam.
Released March, 2004. :P
It also featured Mortars and Flamethrowers.

and like you said, DICE is cheap. i mean really, kit shortcuts for $20!

That's for people who rarely play the game get what they want / need easier, like you said
plus so many weapons were too alike

So really it doesn't matter, it's like Team Fortress 2, whereas things that would very rarely drop you could simply buy, in this case, it's if you haven't got all that much time.
And the two map packs that MUST be bought and not unlocked are even cheaper. It just shows how 'cheap' the company went after the fallout, whereas they introduced new maps for free back in CoD4.

M60.

The Red Dot or 4x Sight was essential for the M60 to make it's high damage / high recoil tradeoff worth it. It isn't overpowered as you can counter it with Rockets, Grenade Launchers or long distance sniping.

the game was completely unbalanced and DICE did nothing but make it worse

So, incredibly wrong there.
Each class had unique functions (more than what I can say for MW2) and each were required for winning. Snipers would be excellent for picking off enemies, opening up the tight spot for Engineers to destroy a tank or Medics to get to their friends. Assault would maintain the sutainability of the force without the need for switching kits and thus maintaining maximum efficiency. The Medic does somewhat the same by allowing teammates to survive and keep up the fire.

Each one is balanced, by points, utility, skill-requirements (with exception to the Sniper, I feel this requires more) and finesse.
And the point system is much, MUCH better than MW2 where you are awarded points and experience for pretty much anything useful, and they're definately balanced.

or midievel call of duty with crossbows of different types of different countries, and spear n stuff. that would be interesting, but again, it would kill the series because the game probably wouldnt be a big success and it would show ideas ran out.

That would be too big a jump and wouldn't suit the fast-paced gameplay of CoD.
You can imagine the classes, Hoplites (Spearmen with shield and sword), Hypaspists (Swordsmen with Shield), Peltast (Javelin Throwers with shield), Toxotes (Bowman with shield, I think...), and Hippikons (Swordsmen on Horseback) with Prodromos (Spearmen on Horseback).

Nevermind the balance problems with mostly melee combat.'

appeal to the casual gamers is to make it unrealistic

Dunno where you got that from.
You cannot deny that 'hardcore gamers' play CoD, every gun in CoD is in one form or another imbalanced.
For instance, the Kriss (Vector) is supposed to have the power equal to or stronger than an MP5 whilst still maintaining that form of shots per minute, this would easily make it the most overpowered gun in the game.
Another example is the Intervention, whereas after exceeding 400 yards it would have more kinetic energy than the Barrett 50.cal (400 yards isn't all that much in a realistic battle, unless it is Urban), and it can shoot up to a mile and a half in conjunction with an item that calculates where it will hit.

Not to mention the huge variety of weapons. I'm not saying it should be realistic, make fun of it in-game if you want (I always pitched this suggestion) like in the campaign, why not?
Realism won't always make a fun game, CoD is fun, but when they put alot of their money into publicity it already highlights how horny they are for money.

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