ForumsWEPR[Would you like some necro with that?]Taking the happy out of happy meal?

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CommanderDude7
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Click here please.
So if you read the article what do you think? Help, hurt or do nothing?

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AnaLoGMunKy
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Im not against people eating unhealthy food. Im not against McDonalds selling it, tho it would be nice if they showed a care and made their food better sourced and more nutritious. Parents who blame McDonalds for their obesity are stupid. Its like blaming a coffee shop if you sip hot coffee and burn your tongue.

Its the way McDonalds market their food and the places they sell it thats the problem.

Kyouzou
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Exactly, I would much prefer if they had better options available, because in all honesty even their 'salads' are terrible.

colonyguy
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Take away the toys the children will be unhappy, but McDonalds should put more nutrition into those "things" they make

Pazx
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Do you want me to blatantly put this out there?

This law may as well be saying "Hello, parents. We think you are doing a ****ty job as a parent and that you are unable to raise your children without our help."


They are doing a ****ty job.
loloynage2
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If parents don't want their children getting happy meals, they don't have to drive their children to McDonalds.


Absolutely, end of story. Unhealthy people stay unhealthy and thats their problem. But a child should be able to say "no!". I hope i wasn't the only kid that refused junk food -.-

It's cheaper to eat at home than it is to go to McDonalds.


hmmm...how?
CommanderDude7
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Parents could get children apples instead of fries and water instead of soda. Thus only one bad part of the meal remains.

loloynage2
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Parents could get children apples instead of fries and water instead of soda. Thus only one bad part of the meal remains.


fries aren't bad, homemade of course. Parents should do homemade stuff only and kids will like it
CommanderDude7
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Well McDonald ones are delicious too, imo, but waaaaaaaaay heavy on the salt. Some parents don't have time to make homemade like if both work and they are rushing 4 kids between 4 sports in different parts of town.

German3945
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This doesn't really tell parents they're doing a bad job, it keeps fastfood chains from giving kids terrible foods. The parents do not usually know what is in the happymeals, they do know their children like them. and seriously, **** giving kids the same overprocessed foods that make the parents fat and fries that look the same after months of being left out in fresh air. ****ING YUCK.


fries aren't bad, homemade of course. Parents should do homemade stuff only and kids will like it

that'd be great but that large percentage of obese parents will not think about making fries themselves one second and buy a happy meal. especially on the run.


This is actually an awfully good proposition, toys are a great item to use as a pawn to make the fastfood places give kids better food.
NoNameC68
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This is actually an awfully good proposition, toys are a great item to use as a pawn to make the fastfood places give kids better food.


It's horrible. The government should not have to, nor be able to, tell you how to raise your children, even if you are raising them poorly. If a parent is abusing their children or their children are actually being harmed, then the government should step in.

Also, what about the parents who only buy happy meals for their kids once in a while? I'm pretty sure most parents who get their children happy meals also make their children eat veggies at home. I'm sure many parents use McDonalds as a "special treat". I babysat a kid and took him to McDonalds and bought him a happy meal. He's perfectly healthy! I don't really know why I'm saying all this, because it can all be untrue and I would still be against such a law for the simple matter that government shouldn't have that kind of power!
German3945
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your last paragraph made a lot of sense. However.....

This isn't saying that happymeals need to be only apples and veggie burgers, it's more to say that the burgers/chicken nuggets need to be made with decent beef and the deep-fry batter cannot be super fatty. Fresh cut and baked fries made only from potatoes and few extra ingredients (salt, a little extra grease maybe) are more aesthetically appealing to the grown-up mind than floppy yellow sticks.

Fries and deep-fried burgers can still be in the happymeals, steady making the kids happy, and not have terrible whatever-the-hell in them. This is more to say that the unnecessarily bad parts shouldn't be there, this food is good enough natural!

NoNameC68
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This isn't saying that happymeals need to be only apples and veggie burgers, it's more to say that the burgers/chicken nuggets need to be made with decent beef and the deep-fry batter cannot be super fatty.


But then, you have the government controlling someone's business.

McDonalds is fairly cheap and the food isn't that bad for you, especially if you only eat it occasionally. The problems with allowing the government to decide the recipe for McDonald's food:

1. This would cause the price of their food to go up, which would hurt their business.

2. This would be another step for the government to control the free market by making it... not so free.

3. Maybe I want to eat their food. Maybe I have a child who wants to eat their food and I say "okay". Why do I want the government to remove something I want because they believe I am too irresponsible to use that something.

I don't eat fast food very often. I don't want the government to make fast food more expensive because other people are fat or eat their too often.I don't want the government to control a good that I want to buy because other people abuse it.
German3945
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before i get into taxation/business arguments, let's keep in mind i am not trying to get into any partisan crap here.

1. Sure it will make a difference but not a large impact, in fact i see going more natural as using less machinery and processing and in the long run being overall less expensive than their current methods. In the short run the switchover from more to less processed will affect prices but in the end, we can't really know this right now.
Also: at 8 dollars a meal, a 50 cent increase will not do much, and i'd like not to tap into economics with all this pricing stuff, my main point is the fact that we can't be sure how much it would affect the business in short or long term.

2. Our markets aren't meant to be completely free, they're supposed to be a balanced mix of controlled free markets. Therefore, it is everyone's duty in this situation to find the best middle ground of the argument to benefit people without taking their menu items off the list.

3. But if you choose to eat their deliciously fattening food it should just be deliciously fattening and the way the sugar or fat is made should not make the sugar and fat indigestible. It can still be there and fatty. Just less fatty.

I don't see a legislation like this getting that far in this country or government anyways, what changes that would be made to the happy meal would certainly not be drastic like taking items off the menu but would improve the way you feel after eating it.

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Also, what about the parents who only buy happy meals for their kids once in a while?


Thank you! I take my kids to fast food maybe once a month if they are lucky. What is the harm in McDonald's french fries and some chicken nuggets once in a while? None at all. Yet now my kids wouldn't be able to get a toy because too many parents are too lazy or too undereducated about diet and health to limit their kid's intake of marginally healthy foods.
German3945
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hurm.
I truly agree with both sides of this argument.

There are things in the food which REALLY don't need to be there and some of the things that are added to the food are truly unnecessary but as long as there isn't a steady consumption it doesn't matter whether or not the kids are allowed to eat it.

Being that I sit on the fence here i probably will not argue either point in and of themself.

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