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valkery
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Is love simply the firing of synapses in the brain telling you to have a physical attraction to them or is it something more? Can a robot be taught to love, and if so, would it truly differ from human love? Is love deeper than what you see on the surface of a relationship? Does it make the world a better place to live or does it just tear it appart?

If you can answer any and all of these questions do so. I probably won't agree with you and try to prove you wrong, but that is okay, because I love you guys.

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Nurvana
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because I love you guys.


No homo.

We have advanced feelings compared to other life forms, ever think that our 'love' is just an evolved version of our desire to continue our species, by way of marriage (mating) and sex (offspring)?
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Is love simply the firing of synapses in the brain telling you to have a physical attraction to them


Yep, that is it in a nutshell.
Freakenstein
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ever think that our 'love' is just an evolved version of our desire to continue our species, by way of marriage (mating) and sex (offspring)?


Well when you put it that way, it sounds like we are moving backwards!

Nah, love is a result of our heightened psyche. What kind of love are you talking about? Mutual love? Love via kinship? Sexual love? It's a psychological bond that we form, whether both parties share it or not.

A robot can be taught loyalty and commitment, but the actual sexual feeling of love cannot be given. Robots are programmed. They do not have a mind, or psyche. They may be able to be programmed commitment and intimacy, but not passion which is the trinity of love.

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/psy457_lamyiu/files/sternbergtriangularlove.jpg

I wonder what the robot can accomplish, given the necessary programming?

Does it make the world a better place to live or does it just tear it appart?


I think love does make the world a better place. It is a necessary emotion that gets us through good times and bad. It's not just the romantic love, mind you, I'm talking about all aspects of love. It probably will tear you apart when you don't get the love that you want, but that's human nature as well. You just have to get past that and move on to another that is willing to accept the love you want.
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What is Love-song by Haddaway, popularized on an SNL skit which later went on to become a song in Night at the Roxbury. This song peaked at number 2 on the UK and Germany charts.

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Would a robot really need love? As long as you give it a procreate sort of program it wouldn't really need it. Or any emotion really.

Freakenstein
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Then the robot would only be fulfilling the Passion side of the love triangle, which is just infatuation. FULL love involves all three sides.

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Love is nothing but a lie. Oh sure, there are those we would do anything for, but it's nothing more than a slavish obsession to want to belong somewhere. Love is something long dead men decided to coin in order to wring people's hearts dry until they're nothing more than hollow empty shells. Love is a poison you can't keep but indulging in no matter if you know it's going to kill you in the end.

Nurvana
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Well Wolf that put a dark turn on things.

Freakenstein
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THAT'S an emo way to describe something... Of course Love is real! It's being projected now--A mutual love for AG and a mutual love for those participating. Sure, there are black sides to love. But again, it is human nature to want, and when we don't get those wants, the whatever gets magnified negatively.

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Then the robot would only be fulfilling the Passion side of the love triangle, which is just infatuation. FULL love involves all three sides.

But the robot would not need the full love just the urge to spread its programming. Unless it was simply an extension of a greater computer.
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Well Wolf that put a dark turn on things


Doesn't it just?

THAT'S an emo way to describe something...


If you're implying I'm emo I resent that.

Sure, there are black sides to love. But again, it is human nature to want, and when we don't get those wants, the whatever gets magnified negatively.


Oh how I know. I'm only speaking from experience of course. I know there are good sides to "love" but they feel like delusions now.
valkery
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Has anyone seen AI artificial Intelligence? It was origionaly made by Stanley Kubrik and then Steven Speil burg finished it after Stanley died. I am rushed on time right now, so I will explain the movie in a later post, if someone doesn't want to go to wikipedia and look it up.

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Then the robot would only be fulfilling the Passion side of the love triangle, which is just infatuation. FULL love involves all three sides.


What the fudgecilies are FULL love? You make it sound like some magical medium. I think your referring to the middle of the triangle which is consummate love. Which is just a balance of all three. I know that diagram I've studied it before in my psychology class. You don't need a full balance of all there to have love.

In the future we could replicated the human brain via programming and then we could have a semi-self conscious being. That would be able to make human like attachment to people or things. Therefore it's not impossible. It really depends on your definition of love. If you definition is logical then yes robots can love. But if you think of it as a magical force then no the robots don't love and by that same logic we can break down that we don't either. Really what is love then trying to procreate and be happy with another individual and raise said child which is just a meatbucket for your genes. Which is the whole reason why evolution has given us the ability to love.

Has anyone seen AI artificial Intelligence?


Yeah but that toaster child didn't have much self-awareness or freedom of thought. He was just programmed to love said person and probably to not love people who didn't love him back. I wouldn't call that love in any aspect of the term.
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What the fudgecilies are FULL love? You make it sound like some magical medium. I think your referring to the middle of the triangle which is consummate love. Which is just a balance of all three. I know that diagram I've studied it before in my psychology class. You don't need a full balance of all there to have love.


If the love that you have for someone doesn't cover all three, then the love is lacking in an area. It's not complete. This hypothetical robot cannot have a complete love. It is not a balance of all three, it is love that contains all three.

If you definition is logical then yes robots can love. But if you think of it as a magical force then no the robots don't love and by that same logic we can break down that we don't either


This magical force that you define as love really humors me a bit. Love is purely psychological, not something spontaneous or created on a whim. Or from other magical matters, from incantations or from gods.

If there is a point in the future where the programmers of AI can *actually* make a synthetic psyche in a robot, then the emotion of love is plausible. Let me stress, however, that it is synthetic, therefore imperfect. I believe that no amount of programming in AI can genuinely mimic a mind. Not only that, but we don't know 100% about our mind. We barely even know how memories are even created.
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Let me stress, however, that it is synthetic, therefore imperfect. I believe that no amount of programming in AI can genuinely mimic a mind.


Tell me, why are things that are synthetic inherently imperfect? The mind, however complex or efficient, is not infallible. We could very well be able to improve on the processes of the mind in the future through artificial intelligence. We do not know.
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