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tomertheking
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Why is the UN so anti-Israily, yet it keeps keeping Israel inside it? it insults it tons of times, and condemns it every multiple times every year? Why is there a special UN commite that helps only Palestinian refugees, and is mostly made up of Palestinians? Why is there a special day that is only to the Palestinian people, but there is a moment of silence in memory of the Palestinian suicide bombers?

International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People-
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Resolution 3379- condemns Zionism to be racist.

UNWRA- A special agency for palestinians

=18">The exclusion of Israel from full UN participation

"There has never been a single resolution about the decades-long repression of the civil and political rights of 1.3 billion people in China, or the more than a million female migrant workers in Saudi Arabia being kept as virtual slaves, or the virulent racism which has brought 600,000 people to the brink of starvation in Zimbabwe. Every year, UN bodies are required to produce at least 25 reports on alleged human rights violations by Israel, but not one on an Iranian criminal justice system which mandates punishments like crucifixion, stoning, and cross-amputation. This is not legitimate critique of states with equal or worse human rights records. It is demonization of the Jewish state."

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RugRat
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It's things like this which make think we should just bomb jersualem and let them fight over the rubble.


The thread may have went to a bad place, but cmon
RugRat
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I am serious, all they do is bicker over whose site is holier despite them using the same ****ing places!

If it all went away, maybe they would shut up for a minute!


It's not really about the holy sites.
The situation went to **** after Israel was created, with the war of 1948 and the seizure of land by Israel over the following years. It would have been better if the palestinians and the other arab states accepted the creation of Israel and the original UN plan, but they did not.
http://bermudaradical.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/palestinian-loss-of-land1.jpg

Look at the original plan. Now look at what happened after 1948. Israel gained a lot of lsnd, due to them winning wars, wanting to secure territory so they can better defend themselves and dickishness by certain members of their government.


I don't see Israel as the good or bad guys in this. They're just a country that wants to secure it's place in the world, but sometimes use sketchy means to achieve that goal(like every other country, ever).

Also, take whatever the UN(just the arab league,really) says with a massive amount of salt. They literally jump on everything that Israel does. Sometimes they have a point, but other times it's just silly.
iMogwai
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Then there is also envy. Israel has nice things, it is a shining star of a first world nation surronded by second and third world countries.


Qatar has the highest GDP per capita in the world, and the UAE has a higher GDP per capita than the US. They're not all second and third world countries.
tomertheking
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Qatar has the highest GDP per capita in the world, and the UAE has a higher GDP per capita than the US. They're not all second and third world countries.


Excluding the gulf nations, who don't attack Israel anyway.
sprooschicken
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no actually there not annoyed because the Jews beat them in some wars, they are looking for an excuse to flex their collective muscle to show Israel what it can do which is basically nothing, the UN started this mess and now can/ wont do anything, countless Arab countries have lost hundreds of lives, Palestinians have lost their homelands friends families, and freedom, the Jews have lost respect, many many lives, there have been no winners from this, so don't talk so lightly about it E1337 like its to rival teams playing a game , it isn't, kits real people dieing so don't talk about the stinking mess that this is like its some sort of light hearted thing to joke about, death isn't funny whether Palestinian, Israeli, or any other Arab nations, they are all fighting for causes they believe to be just, all of them are doing it in a way that has total disregard for civilian casualties, and none of them will ever ever ever concede

iMogwai
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Excluding the gulf nations, who don't attack Israel anyway.


So, Israel is a shining star in an area where there only poor countries, unless you count the rich ones? If the attacks were inspired by jealousy why don't they attack the UAE?
sprooschicken
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so, if it shares the wealth then why would other arab states attack israel out jealosy

egypt who has attacked israel numerous times has never exactly been in poverty, jealousy is certainly not one of the reasons

tomertheking
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So, Israel is a shining star in an area where there only poor countries, unless you count the rich ones? If the attacks were inspired by jealousy why don't they attack the UAE?


Afghanistan also doesn't attack Israel, but it does have a low GPD. Israel just happened to be surrounded by countries that do not have oil.

Also, Kuwait, a freaking rich muslim country was attacked by Iraq in 1991.

so, if it shares the wealth then why would other arab states attack israel out jealosy


egypt who has attacked israel numerous times has never exactly been in poverty, jealousy is certainly not one of the reasons


They used Israel as an external enemy so that the citizens will back a corrupt government.
sprooschicken
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if thats true or not it still proives my point, the attacks have never been insprired by jealousy

tomertheking
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if thats true or not it still proives my point, the attacks have never been insprired by jealousy


Which is exactly my point.
Armed_Blade
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WRONG. First Ottomans, then British, then civil war (1947), then Israel. See Palestine here in the sentence?


This is a little late. But I'd like to fix history.

First, the Ottoman Empire, after it's first like... 200 Years was practically an underdog to Western powers, giving capitulations of power to Western states on an 'or else' method.
As such, many Jews and Christians had humble autonomy within the period doing whatever they wanted.
Following WWII, which, by the way, the Ottomans pretty much had to support Germany, due to their ties with it, the Ottoman Empire was defeated.
This is where tomertheking thinks that Palestine was swept into the English empire, or something like that..

It should be noted the British offered autonomy to Arab states during the war, which helped reduce the work they themselves had to do.
This was changed in the League of Nations mandate, giving the British the right to assemble the new territories, Transjordan and Palestine.
It was THIS Mandate that lead to the creation of a Jewish sate. The Mandate also argued that civil and religious rights for the Palestinians should not be disregarded.

As for religious rights, the place is holy to all, so just transferring who has it does not fix the problem.
As for civil rights, following even the first Arab uprising Israelis received further Palestinian land.

Then you have WW2, The British Mandate ended, oh, and, for some reason or another, the Arab sector of the country was almost completely landlocked by the UN.


And whatever the case, the old argument still stands, why do 5 million Palestinians not have homes anymore?


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fghanistan also doesn't attack Israel, but it does have a low GPD. Israel just happened to be surrounded by countries that do not have oil.


Israel's early economic sector grew because of it's connection to Western markets and they're isolation to one's east of them. And the fact that they had an ocean. And the early amounts of European immigration and business helped, too.

Also, Kuwait, a freaking rich muslim country was attacked by Iraq in 1991.


Because, Kuwait was made for Western control over oil supplies? It's sort of like the Panamanian Oil Canal.
Also, Iraq attacked it to integrate it's oil fields, not out of some envy crap.


Lastly, the UAE is too small to actually attack Israel. What it has done, once in the past, was a banning of Israelites [not jews] in their Tennis Open a few years back. Also, they are major bank-transfer centers for a lot of regions across the world, who knows where their money goes.
sprooschicken
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well even if armed blade hadn't been here to correct your facts and give many many reasons why you are wrong, you neglect to think of one simple point, Israel has never been a country, until it was created, by your reasoning Israel has no right to exist,

and by your reasoning i take it that you believe that just because Palestinians have been oppressed by one empire or another over their history they have no right to a land of their own, so you are basically saying oppression only becomes bad as soon as it ends?

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