UNTHINKABLE is a movie. In this movie Samuel L. Jackson plays the part of an interrogator that uses the means of torture to get the information he requires out of the criminals. At the time of the movie there is a man who has planted nuclear weapons in large US cities. The interrogator will go to any length to get what he needs. He has this man in his custody. He subjects this man to many unthinkable tortures. At one point he has the man's children at his disposal and is going to make the man watch as he mutilates them.
My question is.... at this point in time.... is such an action justified? another actor in the movie makes the argument that "we are human beings and not wild animals"... "let the nukes go off... we should never stoop so low."
Is doing the Unthinkable thinkable? Or should such a thing be off limits?
I think there are limits we should never cross. It's like the application of torture during witch hunts. All it does is garner a false confession and you're still left with no real answers, just a martyr
UNTHINKABLE is a movie. In this movie Samuel L. Jackson plays the part of an interrogator that uses the means of torture to get the information he requires out of the criminals. At the time of the movie there is a man who has planted nuclear weapons in large US cities. The interrogator will go to any length to get what he needs. He has this man in his custody. He subjects this man to many unthinkable tortures. At one point he has the man's children at his disposal and is going to make the man watch as he mutilates them. My question is.... at this point in time.... is such an action justified? another actor in the movie makes the argument that "we are human beings and not wild animals"... "let the nukes go off... we should never stoop so low." Is doing the Unthinkable thinkable? Or should such a thing be off limits? A good watch for those interested....
Brutality can go as far as that if we let it. If it is unthinkable then why did he do it btw? He needed info and he had to get it. I think that he killed a family but in full knowing, the other guy was about to kill alot of people but being kinda oblivious. I don't think doing it knowingly isn't as bad as setting off a nuke.
The costs and benefits of acting should be weighed against the costs and benefits of not acting. In this case, it is know that A. Nukes are planted in various cities, and B. Said nukes will soon detonate, killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of innocent civilians.
The cost of acting, in this case, is torture inflicted on this terrorist; the benefit is that the millions of people get to live.
The cost of inaction is the lives of millions are lost. The benefit is a un-tortured terrorist.
I believe the best course is too extract the locations of the bombs ASAP in order to have the best chance of disarming the bombs and saving lives.
I think there are limits we should never cross. It's like the application of torture during witch hunts. All it does is garner a false confession and you're still left with no real answers, just a martyr
Where is the limit? The hard part is finding the limit. Again, is the few worth more then the many? This man, who knew full well the consequences of his actions, choose to place the bombs.
It is the lives of a terrorist and a few of his innocent family against hundreds of thousands of families. Logan has the right idea with extraction, except it would take a long time, cause widespread panic, and something could still go terribly wrong and perhaps cause a secondary triggerman to explode the bombs prematurely. The hero of the story always tries to find a way to save the lives of the many and the few, but the truth is sacrifices are made every day for the greater good, and doing what is right for the whole of humanity is more important than what is right for a few people. I would gladly sacrifice my life in the defense of millions, and do whatever it took to protect those same people. Does that make me a terrible person? Maybe, but the ends justify the means, no matter what level of hell I get sent to.
While I don't have a problem with torture if the situation justifies it, I do have a problem with it in the fact that it most likely won't garner a true confession.
i.e. Arabic terrorists fight the Jihad, The Holy War, they fully expect to die when going into battle. If one is captured torture will do nothing to gain answers, simply because they will lie and waste your time until either their goal is accomplished or they die from the torture. In the end nothing is gained, and potentially everything can be lost.
well the unthinkable part that I was thinking of was the two children that were 10ish years of age that Samuel L. Jackson got his hands on... it wasn't so much the unspeakable torture the man actually went through... but it still applies when ur just talking about him.
While family is a viable option, children should always be off limits, how can we as humans call ourselves 'civilized' when we allow the torture of children?
While family is a viable option, children should always be off limits, how can we as humans call ourselves 'civilized' when we allow the torture of children?
How many children would have been killed by the nukes? How is millions being killed instantly plus thousands who would also die from radiation poisoning civilized?
one of the questions i was wanting to get out there and discussed was "should there be anything that is 'offlimits' when it comes to the safety of our country and our loved ones? ....not talking about nukes or anything like that b/c its basically suicide... include it if u wish
just b/c we're "humans" and not animals, by some people's definitions... should that keep us from doing such acts? are children actually off limits? ...he had the man who was being tortured's wife enter the room and said he was going to hand the man pieces of his still living wife one by one till he talked.... the others in the room tried to take her back out away from him so SLJ lunged forward and slit her throat in front of the man and she died there... the woman had nothing to do w/ it... are innocent people game for forcing out information?
