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Kevin4762
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I reading and I saw the quote that said "the more laws, the more offenders." This got me thinking about how it is true. So I basically drew up a list of what I thought were the hot topics about what should be legal and illegal.

Marijuana: Decriminalized
Arms: Illegal
Alcohol: Legal
Prostitution: Decriminalized
Lobbying: Illegal
Cocaine: Illegal
Murder: Looser Laws
Assault: Looser laws

What do you think should be legal and illegal?

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Einfach
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Marijuana: Decriminalized
Arms: Illegal
Alcohol: Legal
Prostitution: Decriminalized
Lobbying: Illegal
Cocaine: Illegal
Murder: Looser Laws
Assault: Looser laws


All should be legal except for those that directly affect another's life or liberty (thus, Murder, and Assault should be illegal).
Joe96
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Marijuana: Decriminalized

Maybe for people who who haven't had a felony or something.
Arms: Illegal

I really don't see why guns should be illegal. There should be background checks on people though.
Alcohol: Legal

Isn't it already?
Prostitution: Decriminalized

That's disgusting and we already have enough prostitutes on the city corners
Lobbying: Illegal

I don't like most politicians as they tend to be irresponsible, greedy, corrupt (I live in Illinois), etc. so that sounds like a good idea.
Cocaine: Illegal

I think that's already illegal.
Murder: Looser Laws
Assault: Looser laws

I actually think they should be stricter actually. Assault should depend on what happened, how bad it was, and "who started it".
Einfach
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That's disgusting and we already have enough prostitutes on the city corners


What did prostitutes do to you?
Sonatavarius
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isn't marijuana smoke worse than cigarette smoke?.... the enzymes in your lungs remove all the crap you inhale by way of releasing chemicals into it that dissolve the stuff... those chemicals also eat away at the elastin in your lungs which can produce emphysema in your lungs... i don't want more smoke(and worse smoke) in the air i breathe. if you want to make it legal to do it in your own house or in specific restaurants/bars then go for it.... just not in every public location

i would prefer all smoking be done away w/... or given specific places it can be done

arms = legal

the more addictive drugs cause people to spend all their money (not my problem...and i don't care about their problems)... but once they spend all their money and can no longer afford their addiction not everyone can just quit cold turkey... they start stealing and taking things to sell off for money... and the means by which they attain such objects can be and is potentially harmful to other people. ......illegal

murder.... it depends on the situation.... but I believe in the death penalty

assault.... I hate bullies and those that take advantage of others... and/or abuse (incorporating assault here) others... looser you say? ... I'd prefer that the noose be tightened on that one and kill the desire to unjustly do such things to people

prostitution is whatever... but my response to that is ... go find a girlfriend instead... although i'm not sure which would end up being cheaper lol.... and by that... i mean if you're treating her right then its going to cost you something (not trying to be chauvinist here)

Einfach
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i don't want more smoke(and worse smoke) in the air i breathe.


Secondhand smoke is actually very diluted - think about it...there are three dimensions, so if you have a cubic foot of smoke (and it will be SOO much less than that) dispersed over a 20 x 10 x 20 ft. area, that's 0.025% of the air that is composed of smoke...yup.
Sonatavarius
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Umm, duh?


he's not asking you to critique his op... he's asking you to add your opinions in here alongside him and discuss... if you agree w/ him then say so. if you disagree with him then say so. ...but do it in a respectable way... b/c our local neighborhood Murderator weeds out the posts like that
Einfach
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weeds out the posts like that


nice pun.
Sonatavarius
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diluted or not... that is smoke and other crap in the air now that would not have been there had you not puffed it out. the correlation may be purely coincidental but my childhood friends that grew up w/ asthma and/or breathing problems came from homes who had smokers for parents (heavy)... a mere 2-3 people... i can't think of any of my other friends that have asthma or breathing related problems...

now i don't know whether or not its true but my med phys teacher told us this week that the damage from the smoke is just about irreversible. i'd like to keep my lungs as long as I can.... that and i hate the smell... and i feel almost choked everytime i have to walk by a pack of smokers to class. i don't care if people smoke... just don't do it around me.

i've heard of people smoking for a life time and not getting cancer... my physics teacher never smoked a day in his life and got throat cancer (lectures w/ a trache tube)... but word on the street is that there have been proven correlations between smoking and cancer and/or other sicknesses related to the subject matter.

why is it that if someone wants to take their life immediately that we rush to stop them?... but if someone does something that has been proven to kill the vast majority of its users over a period of time (long or short depending on if u get cancer and the type) we say its their right to do what they want and just cry after the fact? (i mean u don't cry if u didn't care for the person... or u just don't cry in general..or maybe if you don't give crying any merit... in case someone was going to toss those 2 cents in).... should we not rush to stop suicidal people?

LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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Looser laws = freedom to do more of it and get away with said crimes.

No matter which side you flip it, there will always be those who take advantage. Make a certain drug legal, gangs will just sell at a lower price illegally.

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Prostitution: Decriminalized

I think that prostitution should stay illegal cause it's really down in the slums when it comes to that, selling your body. Plus then they would be getting the products addicted to marijuana so they'll keep comin back.
Kevin4762
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Well, I am not asking for you guys to post what you guys think should be banned or not banned. Those are the things I think should be banned or not banned.

The discussion of this thread should be about the balance about what laws people should go to jail for.

LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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The discussion of this thread should be about the balance about what laws people should go to jail for.


Murder and the like... no sense in looser laws if harm is meant and carried out.
Sonatavarius
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isn't that the same as what should be banned or not banned? possession of banned materials would result in punishment... if not then why ban?

Somewhat49
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The discussion of this thread should be about the balance about what laws people should go to jail for

What do you mean by ballence? You threw me off by posting what you think laws should be instead of explaining what you wanted to be discussed.
Einfach
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Make a certain drug legal, gangs will just sell at a lower price illegally.


No man - it's the other way around: companies can produce / sell more cheap than gangs can. How else can gangs afford all their weapons?

I think that prostitution should stay illegal cause it's really down in the slums when it comes to that, selling your body. Plus then they would be getting the products addicted to marijuana so they'll keep comin back.


Correlation does not imply causation. You're jumping to conclusions, and you're only evidence is correlation.

"Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive..." - Wallace Irving or George Bernard Shaw
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