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Matt121
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Presidents missing,roits in the streets, the internets been shut off, public curfew, what else will go wrong.

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pratchu
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its on the news that al-arabiya said Mubarak just left the party.

FlashGameInformer
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Really?

FireflyIV
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Looks like things may go in a positive direction if the president cedes power to the VP.


Ie., what Obama hopes will happen. For once I would like to hear people ask the question 'what do the Egyptian plan for Egypt?' Rather than 'what is the Obama plan for Egypt?'

The neocon West uses democratisatioin to depose tyrants where they don't suit us (Iraq/Afghanisatn) yet support and fund them where it does (Saudi Arabia/Egypt/Jordan etc). It's this cynical kind of foregin policy that has blighted the Arab world since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Neoconservatism is a failed foreign policy experiment. That should have been clear after Vietnam, let alone Iran and Iraq in the 70s.

It's disgraceful really. People are dying on the streets to put an end to the US funded torture centres and to bring about democracy and an end to unemployment and poverty, and right wing commentators in the West still fear monger about the dangers of giving Arabs democracy in case they vote for a pro Islamic party. It's pathetic and shows just how vaccuous most Western leaders are when it comes to the important issues.
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Well, as you probably all have heard, Egypt's president has finally stepped out of power. However, the military is now in charge of the country. What are your thoughts on this.

HahiHa
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I'm not sure if he stepped out of power or was stepped out of power, sincerely. When he was doing his speech the evening before, he only said he relegated parts of his powers to the vice-president, and changed a few articles and stuff, but would not retire completely. And the day after he leaves Cairo? ..

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BBC News said

Fireworks lit the skies of Cairo and protesters shed tears of joy in Egypt as they celebrated the end of President Hosni Mubarak's 30 years of power.

Mr Mubarak stepped down as leader on Friday, after 18 days of widespread anti-government demonstrations.

The country is now in the hands of the high command of the armed forces, headed by the defence minister.

US President Barack Obama called Egypt an inspiration, but said it must now move to civilian and democratic rule.

Soldiers have started to remove some of the barricades around Tahrir Square in central Cairo - the focal point of the demonstrations.

But hundreds of people remain in the square - some saying they await to hear from the army on the steps they are to take to return the country to normality.

Shortly before the announcement of his resignation, Mr Mubarak left Cairo for the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, where he has a residence.

The anti-government protests that began on 25 January were triggered by widespread unrest in Egypt over unemployment, poverty and corruption.

Seashark001
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He Stepped down

P.s. Sorry about the double post

Matt121
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Murabak stepped down finaly no ciliv war,no war with Isreal, no mob of prtesters in dc
just kidding

Ghgt99
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Here is a funny comic I found.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1113/gfon652l.png

mo9
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guys egypt isnt so bad now (i am egyptian ) they say mubarak only stepped down cause he is really sick , thats why he didnt announce his "step down" it was a decision made on his behalf but he left thats the important thing all we have to do is build up a new government and parliament and elect a new president not that hard :P

HahiHa
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they say mubarak only stepped down cause he is really sick

I'm sure it was the military who forced him down to prevent escalations.. or something like that.
mo9
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sorry for the double post :/

The 'leader' of the Egyptial Rebellion (I think his name is Bareydea or something like that) is a puppet. We have the Islamic Brotherhood handing out food and other nessecities, and there operating openly in the street. The Brotherhood is gaining the support of the people, which could easily carry them to the top.

And whats worse, is this is happened in Tunisia, is happening in Yemen, is happening in Jordan, is happening in Moroco. The ENTIRE Middle East is engulfed with revolution. What will happen with those other Islamic Fundalmentalist groups start up, in the UK for example? The UK already has its own riots...

I personally think the US is smart to back up the current regime. Granted, its not ideal, but the possible outcomes of supporting the revolutionaries is worse. The US doesn't need more 'Irans'.


i just have some corrections
1st the revolution did not have a leader it was planned and executed by the youth , though many ppl claimed they were the leaders or that they were supported by the Egyptians.

2ndly the muslim brother-hood tried to interferer and claim the revolution as their own but failed as the Egyptians Christians muslims women men and evry part of the society was in it .

last point is that obama did not suppurt mubarak all the way after the chaos started obama told mubarak to step down but mubarak was arrogant and did not listen to obama or his own ppl, concerning a war with israel that's highly unlikely as the country hasnt stablized yet
mo9
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revolution

the military was quite neutral it didn't attack any of both sides
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last point is that obama did not suppurt mubarak all the way after the chaos started obama told mubarak to step down but mubarak was arrogant and did not listen to obama or his own ppl, concerning a war with israel that's highly unlikely as the country hasnt stablized yet


Actually Obama told Mubarak to change what he was doing, not to step down. If Obama did tell him to step down, it was near the end. Obama should have no credit given to him what so ever when it comes to what happened in Egypt.

all we have to do is build up a new government and parliament and elect a new president not that hard :P


Who says you need a government. >.>

I just hope the Egyptians are able to avoid big government and entitlement programs. This is why the Egyptians would be very wise to ignore people such as Obama if they do end up seeking advice.

I hope that the Egyptians realize that they don't need a government to provide for them, because everything they need is already provided by the people. A big government will only pretend to provide for the people by fiddling with the system. They will mess things up and when there is some form of success they will take the credit, rather than give it to the people who could have achieved such success much easier without government intervention.

I would love to see a nation run by the people.
mo9
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about the government part we do need one *** all the governors we have are corrupt and need to be changed so technically its replacing all the governors

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