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Gun and Knife crime in London

Posted May 5, '08 at 9:52am

woody_7007

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In 2007 27 teenagers were stabbed to death in London alone and in the first 10 weeks of 2008 another 9 fatal stabbings occured. 48 people were shot dead in London in 2007.

These are statistics from just the past two years however you can see how serious an issue it is. As a teenager who lives in London it distresses me that i cannot go outside to play football anymore without being in fear of getting 'shanked' or 'plugged'. Recently someone was stabbed and killed at the trainstation 5 mins from my house. The question is what is the root of the problem and how can we fix it.

Is it the gangs?(black, white, polish?)
Is it poor policing
Is it the estates having a poor environment?
Post your opinion

(Anyone can comment not just Londeners as it is also a global issue. Americans have similar problems in their inner cities)

 

Posted May 5, '08 at 1:10pm

Skipper8656568

Skipper8656568

345 posts

i REALLY DONT KNOW but i think that it will hurt you.

 

Posted May 5, '08 at 1:31pm

Grimlok

Grimlok

158 posts

Polish? How are Polish people not in the white category?

 

Posted May 5, '08 at 3:55pm

Ichibon

Ichibon

145 posts

Why don't you check the homeless statistics for your area and the gang violence ratio of London. It might or might not help, but it's a better start than you had. I think.;-p

 

Posted May 5, '08 at 5:52pm

SkullZero1

SkullZero1

524 posts

Well, those murders were probobly part of some sort of heated argument or gang related, not serial killing (hopefully), so just try to not get into an argument with teenagers and carry protection if you think it truly is a major threat to you.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 1:43pm

woody_7007

woody_7007

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To Grimlock when i said white i meant English sorry 4 the misunderstanding. To Ichibon its a good point but if you aren't aware England has the worst youth in Europe statistically with more stabbings by people under the age of 18 than anywhere else and trust me its not homeless people but fair point. To SkullZero1 i am not saying there are serial killers on Londons streets but just extremely violent youths whose first reaction to being offended is to stab someone.

I personally belive that alcohol is a big part of the problem as it is readily available to people. 48 percent of violent crime is drink related in Britain. I admit i first got drunk when i was 13, that's how easy you can get booze in Britain. There is talk of a new law to make the drinking age 21 not 18 but i thik that's stupid you should just make it harder to buy alcohol in off licences eg oddbins an make it harder in places like tesco aswell.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 1:54pm

Flipski

Flipski

639 posts

I'm Polish, are there really Polish gangs in London? I find that funny.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 2:51pm

woody_7007

woody_7007

2,757 posts

Yes quite a few. They come over to work here and make money. Then on the last night before they leave they mug people in Hammersmith take phones + wallets and then go home. However it's not only this but the Polish have a thing about carrying knives and there have been a few stabbings involving Poles, so its not that funny

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 5:24pm

hierensi

hierensi

42 posts

i think that crime in america is much worse(no offence)
also im wondering why so many british people know about this website and so few of my friends know about it =( (no offence once again)

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 5:42pm

Moegreche

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Woody, is it really so bad that you actually are afraid to go outside? That just makes me picture armed thugs literally roaming the streets, waiting for a mark. Certainly violent crime is commonplace across the pond here, but I really only feel afraid if I'm in a rough part of town - and even then it's usually not just random violence towards anyone who comes near someone.
But I think part of the problem is the sprawl of many huge cities like London. You have decently wealthy middle and upper-middle class people in very close proximity with those well below the poverty line. This creates easy opportunities for those who feel like they can take from other.
In Japan, the "classes" are segregated, presumably to stop violent crime like that from happening as easily. If you're wealthy, then you live around only other wealthy people, and you don't really need to steal. If you're poor, then you only live around other poor people who really don't have much to steal anyway.
Maybe that's the direction all crowded cities should start taking?

 
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