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thepyro222
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I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done.
I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please

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Kasic
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What about self-sacrifice for the better of the herd?


I believe wolves do this, as well as some other pack/herd/social animals.

Well, how about eating one's own children in times of hunger?


I don't believe this was an every day occurance. Could you provide more information?

How about eating other humans?


There weren't that many societies that did this, and the ones that did were following a religion I believe...Not sure though.
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There weren't that many societies that did this, and the ones that did were following a religion I believe...Not sure though.


There were also many societies accused of this that didn't practice such rituals. Yes there are cases of religious cannibalism.
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In answer to Nicodemus, it is Christianity that told us to love each other, there isn't a term 'lets be Christian about this' for no reason.


I'm not denying that Christianity does impart such morals; what I was trying to bring across is that atheism in itself will not lead to a world without morals. Just because I don't believe in a Supernatural Being doesn't mean I'm a lying cheating crook.
ArmorPenetrator
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Why would you open such unnecessary topics? No one in the world has the right to drag people wherever he wants. So, give up trying.

nichodemus
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Why would you open such unnecessary topics? No one in the world has the right to drag people wherever he wants. So, give up trying.


If you read the OP, the original intention was for Christians to discuss their religion in peace; however since AG has been blessed...or cursed(?) with an atheist community, the thread has side tracked.
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Yeah, I'm necroing a little bit now, but I really liked listening to this, so I'm bringing it back. Mods, please don't lock this, though I understand if you do.

nichodemus
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If you necro it, there must be something you want to discuss. So what is it?

stephenking
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Ah, now I remember it.

however since AG has been blessed...or cursed(?) with an atheist community, the thread has side tracked.
I would say blessed with an atheist community.
phycticpotato
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Blessed by whom?

stephenking
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stephenking
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Blessed by whom?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
nichodemus
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I would say blessed with an atheist community.


Blessed or cursed? Those two hideous words have connotations of a higher being influencing the pitiful lives of men!

I mean....yeah I miss having some religious folk around.
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Blessed by whom?

Or instead turn it into a real discussion? While blessed tends to have the implication of higher power as Nichodemus pointed out. Assume that is left out. Then, why is an atheist community a blessing? Or an asset? Or whatever word you want to use instead...
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I mean....yeah I miss having some religious folk around.


You're just hungry for a good debate, nicho.

But there does seem to be an awful shortage of religious people around. Tends to make us seem a bit closed minded.
nichodemus
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I am always hungry for a good debate!

Yes, there used to be plenty back that. But AtheistGames...sorry ArmorGames seems to have too strong an atheist community, so maybe it has scared them away?

Anyway, I have an odd, basic question that reflects on my ignorance. Can someone, summarize what are the Old and New Testaments, and give a comparison between the two? I have a rough idea, but I've heard different denominations saying different things, and it gets frustrating at times.

AgathaB
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Yes, there used to be plenty back that. But AtheistGames...sorry ArmorGames seems to have too strong an atheist community, so maybe it has scared them away?


Probably. I mean, when we converge upon them, they just seem to sort of give up. And we're not even that scary! (I don't think so, anyway.)

Eh, sorry I can't help with the question about the Testaments. Maybe someone else can? We mostly dealt with the Old Testament stories in my lit classes, and the religious connotations mostly escape me.
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