I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done. I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please
You are doing exactly what they were, just for a different cause. Don't be sarcastic in the WEPR, it gets you no where. You just have to lay down your argument, and stick to the defense. That is all you really can do.
They can't be right, nothing can be right. You can't prove that atheism is 100% correct, and Christians can't prove they are 100% correct.
We can have degrees of certainty. It doesn't have to be 100%, in fact looking at some as 100% correct is just closed minded as your not open to the possibility you might be wrong how ever slight.
We can have degrees of certainty. It doesn't have to be 100%, in fact looking at some as 100% correct is just closed minded as your not open to the possibility you might be wrong how ever slight.
Or you can disprove it reductio ad absurdum, in which case the odds are 0% and the odds for not-p are 100$ - there that's 100% certainty.
You could prove it logically.
What exactly, Mage, determines "degrees of certainty"?
We can have degrees of certainty. It doesn't have to be 100%, in fact looking at some as 100% correct is just closed minded as your not open to the possibility you might be wrong how ever slight.
Nothing is 100% because that's just a human construct and not really applicable to a complex system like the world, not even the laws of the universe (eg. gravity) is the same everywhere.
@pyro science does not say the big bang happened for no reason, it doesn't jump to conclusions, there are things we don't know. But are eager to scientifically figure out. Also it didn't magically re-range itself, it's a prove mathematical fact that if you have a high energy system then lower it, it develops complexity to some degree.
i now have a nicknames for the atheists on this forum AWGSFTOAFGW (that stands for: Atheists Who Get Satisfaction From trolling on a flash game website) i bet one of u will reply with ur own saying of christians just to be equal or something
Or you can disprove it reductio ad absurdum, in which case the odds are 0% and the odds for not-p are 100$ - there that's 100% certainty.
That's only if logic itself is 100% true, but it's another human construction.
AWGSFTOAFGW (that stands for: Atheists Who Get Satisfaction From trolling on a flash game website) i bet one of u will reply with ur own saying of christians just to be equal or something
Congrats, you have now lost 3 internet respect points. I'm sorry that people's opinions that differ from yours are automatically labeled as coming from a troll.
What exactly, Mage, determines "degrees of certainty"?
I look at things from a scientific point of view. It's like saying I'm sitting here typing at my computer. I can be 99.99999...% sure that I am but there is still the slightest of chances that it's all just an illusion, but given that chance we can regard it as being as good as impossible unless further evidence is provided showing that all this really is an illusion.
So while I don't believe that I'm not actually at my computer, I can still keep the possibility that I'm not. Though possible doesn't at all mean probable.
So while I don't believe that I'm not actually at my computer, I can still keep the possibility that I'm not. Though possible doesn't at all mean probable.
Sounds like a quantum state, both there and not there at the same time.
Yes, they do not, and in fact they don't even stop sperm completely. Latex is porous, the topmost diameter of pores is 5e-6 m (5 micrometers), and highest diameter of a spermatozoid is ~4 micrometers. The diameter of AIDS virus is less than 0.5 micrometers.
a definition that invalidates man's consciousness and nullifies his concepts of existence.
Objecting this. It's true that God, as a divine being, is incomprehensible by a human mind as a whole, but we still can understand the main conceptions of the created universe. This is designed to prepare us to the ultimate majesty of Him. Since we can understand something about God, our consciousness is not invalidated.
8. Therefore, D - Determinism is inevitable!!!
Well, determinism is implied from binary logic, this is correct.
there can be no randomness in the universe: everything is deterministic.
Yes, but the complete laws of this randomness are beyond our scope and beyond our reach, regardless of science level. IF God exists, you will have to admit that some of those laws are hidden within Him and are unable to be accessed unless He will decide to reveal them. This does not exclude that fact that science can deduce some of these laws. If God does not exist, this should imply that we are able to reach the complete set of laws that determine the universe. So far this is false, but this is not a proof of it being totally false, therefore binary logic cannot help me in denying the statement "God does not exist" thus proving the statement "God exists". Pity, I say but this is my biggest approach to proving that God exists.
For instance, why is it immoral to murder? Surely not because of God?! For murder would be wrong whether God existed or not!
This was argued against, on page 25, by providing cannibals as an example of existing moral and still approving murder.
Okay, going to read all 18 pages of this topic that appeared after I went to sleep.
No, it is a logical flow. You are told god is dead by nietzche you are told nietzche is dead by god therefore, logically, since they are both dead, they both must be the same thing.
Wrong flow. I am alive, you are alive, does this mean I am you? No. Logical representation: "All A are B. All C are B. Therefore, all C are A." This is a wrong conclusion, since the initial statements don't say a thing about relation of B towards any of the A or C. We can say only, "Some B are A, some B are C" without a successful conclusion whether some "A and C" exist or not.
Dude I'm all for mass producing the Eucharist as "Jesus Flakes"; Real Jesus in every bite!
Are you a priest? And you should know that the unconsecrated hosts are already in mass production.
I ask the faithful because I want THEIR answer. That is kinda like telling me to ask a plumber about fixing a car.
Please read my answers aroung the whole of this topic, and please try to do a constructively criticizing reply.
