I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done. I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please
Once again, you bring up good points, and if i did debate with id make myself look stupid, because you obviously know how to debate better me. This is where being a Christian gets hard; its hard enough dealing with mormons and catholics and hindus and muslims who already believe in some deity, but then we must try and convince atheists that there is a Holy God as well.
If something can't stand on it's own merits and hold up to the even slightest bit of scrutiny, then how is it worth continuing to believe? Doesn't this indicate a belief in someting that is likely not true? Perhaps that believe holder needs to be further examined such belief that is so weak to stand on it's own?
If you go back far enough, you get two main religions: Judaism and Hinduism. Most religions around today are offshoots. Exceptions: Scientology Shintoism Iranian Religions Traditional Folk Religions Quite a short list. (This is a factual entry not an opinion)
I really need someone ti clarify the difference between atheism and Scientology, I never really saw any difference between the two.
Scientology has nothing to do with science, despite the name. They're a criminal sect, making people dependent of them and taking their money for whatever ritual. I honestly wouldn't call them a religion...
Scientology teaches that people are immortal beings who have forgotten their true nature. Its method of spiritual rehabilitation is a type of counselling known as auditing, in which practitioners aim to consciously re-experience painful or traumatic events in their past in order to free themselves of their limiting effects. Study materials and auditing courses are made available to members in return for specified donations. Scientology is legally recognized as a tax-exempt religion in the United States and some other countries, and the Church of Scientology emphasizes this as proof that it is a bona fide religion. In other countries, notably France, Germany, and the United Kingdom, Scientology does not have comparable religious status.
(it's officialy labeled a sect in germany and belgium (of wich i know))
atheists simply do not believe in any unatural magicly unlogical things. and scientology people realy have a open hole in their mind where logic belongs. don't think more is to say about it.
1.Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. 2.Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them. 3.When in another's lair, show them respect or else do not go there. 4.If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy. 5.Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. 6.Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved. 7.Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. 8.Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. 9.Do not harm little children. 10.Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food. 11.When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they donât stop, destroy them.
The eleven satanic commandments. And people say he is bad
Also, if Satan represents all evil, and he rules over hell, surely hell is just heaven for the evil people?
Well, no, from the christian perspective hell is a place where people get tortured, I don't think those people who 'deserve' to go to hell like torture at all, even if they're evil. It's not evil in a human sense, it's evil in a demonic sense, where even human evil isn't at ease. Maybe...
Just keep in mind evil and good are subjective; and if you acknowledge the devil, you acknowledge god, after all both are equally part of the christian faith. Which one of them both is the good and the bad one is a debate better left between the classic christian and the religious satanists.
On a more humorous and slightly less serious note: How do you think God feels about getting thanked for massive bowl movements? That would make me uncomfortable.
I'm just curious, why do atheists get mad at Christians pushing their agenda. Don't atheists push their agendas as well? Every time I mention God to one of my friends an atheist usually starts a debate with me quick as the flash. Just curious on why that is?
Also, how can atheists say the universe was formed without a creator or cause of its forming?
I'm just curious, why do atheists get mad at Christians pushing their agenda.
Because Christians are constantly pulling the abused majority card while simultaneously telling every non believer that they are going to hell if they don't repent. It gets old, fast.
Don't atheists push their agendas as well?
Exactly how do atheists push their agenda? I only ever see (most) atheists talk about the subject of religion if someone else brings it up. How every argument about religion in my life has started:
Random person: "Hey nice to meet you." Me: "You too." Random person: "Thanks for helping me out earlier." Me: "No problem." Random person: "So, what sort of things do you like?" Me: "Oh you know, games, reading, tv, various sports." Random person: "That's cool. I wish there were more people like you in the world, these days everyone claims to be a Christian but they aren't really."
^some kind of assumption that good people are Christian or attend church regularly and are not Muslims. Once a statement like this occurs, the next is likely asking what type of Christian I am, which then gets into the whole religion thing.
Well that whole spiel or someone scoffing at evolution, to which I question how they passed biology.
Every time I mention God to one of my friends an atheist usually starts a debate with me quick as the flash. Just curious on why that is?
It's probably how you bring it up. After some time it just irks you to hear everything being attributed to God or something similar. Give an example?
Also, how can atheists say the universe was formed without a creator or cause of its forming?
Every time in history the answer to every question has had one thing in common: It was not caused by a god. Arguing that it has to be a god because we don't yet have an explanation or know for sure is a god of the gaps argument. That argument makes as much sense as arguing unicorns made the universe, because we don't know how yet.
Job's 10 kids when his house was destroyed, but it was part of a bet with God.
Even then it was with God's say so.
I'm just curious, why do atheists get mad at Christians pushing their agenda. Don't atheists push their agendas as well? Every time I mention God to one of my friends an atheist usually starts a debate with me quick as the flash. Just curious on why that is?
Also, how can atheists say the universe was formed without a creator or cause of its forming?
There simply isn't evidence supporting the existence of a creator. A creator adds an unneeded element that actually complicates the situation than it does to answer it. If we need something complex to make something complex we must then as who created the creator. If we are able to say that the creator did not need to be created we don't need to add a creator and can simply apply that attribute to what we know exists. If we start from the most simplistic base form we can have and work our way up through natural processes we sidestep the infinite regression and/or special pleading necessary for a creator. As for having no cause, we don't say that.
