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Kevin4762
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Very general topic.

Now, what I want to know is what you think your favourite form of government is and why.

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MageGrayWolf
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Star Trek style Utopia, Though unfortunately I don't think it's feasible. While it is a bit vague on details it seems to merge some of the best qualities of several forms of government and it's seems to be more achievement driven rather then monetarily driven. (which is the least likely aspect of it to really happen)

Kevin4762
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Star Trek style Utopia, Though unfortunately I don't think it's feasible. While it is a bit vague on details it seems to merge some of the best qualities of several forms of government and it's seems to be more achievement driven rather then monetarily driven. (which is the least likely aspect of it to really happen)


Why do you like it?
Xzeno
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Why do you like it?


Star Trek style Utopia


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MoonFairy
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I think that a republic monarchy would be cool.
Even though it is a contradiction.

314d1
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I think that a republic monarchy would be cool.
Even though it is a contradiction.


I think they call that a constitutional monarchy. Actually, last I checked England could be considered this and France was at one time this. Basically it lowers the king/queens power to figurehead, while being a republic. Or like the English with the house of lords (Monarchy) with the house of commons (Republic). Or that is what I think they have...
cowmaster1
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I'm fine with the goverment the US form of democracy. Though, for one of my classes i made a bureaucratic semi-presidential republic state! It was sweet

Dragonblaze052
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America is a Federalistic Constitutional Beurocratic Democractic Republic last I checked, not a Democracy. Forgive my if I left out a part.

I think any good form of government can't work because idiots would corrupt it. Anarchy is equally bad because nobody has self control without already having guidelines.

FireflyIV
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I think they call that a constitutional monarchy. Actually, last I checked England could be considered this and France was at one time this. Basically it lowers the king/queens power to figurehead, while being a republic. Or like the English with the house of lords (Monarchy) with the house of commons (Republic). Or that is what I think they have...


What we have in Britain is called constitutional monarchy. A system where the monarchy has the constitutional power but is merely a de facto figurehead.

Personally I like it. Nothing a bit of electoral reform couldn't mostly fix anyhow.
thepyro222
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small, direct democracies are always the best. Many native American tribes went this way. The Chief was similar to the president, but all of the tribe voted on what to do. Every voice was heard.

314d1
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I like the greek style of democracy, through it took a long time to get stuff done.


The same democracy that ended the life of a great philosopher?

And I just realized that I am yet to make a post...

It depends on the situation the country is in, what you mean by best, and the history of that country. For example, a war against a far inferior power that uses guerrilla style warfare (Think Vietnam or Iraq), then a communist or deposit style government is the "best", as it not only doesn't need public support as other forms of government are, but can control what the public can see meaning that they don't need to hold anything back. But of course this will have a huge effect on the countries economy, and would be nearly impossible to willfully apply the communist or dictator government in a country that has a history of despising those philosophies, like the United States of America, meaning that the current form of republic would work best for America for almost any situation do to the fact that it would be the only government that would be acceptable by the people under it.

Just to get more general, Democracies and Republics can work great for the welfare and happiness of the people living other them, but the people must be educated and reasonably wealthy, or the systems tend to be corrupted easily. The people also must have a way of making their vote, which would be difficult in a large poor nation. The public must not only be well educated, but well educated in current events, meaning that if the public doesn't have a strong support in the war, and it looks like they are losing, then they will probably surrender, especially if nearing an election. Though this does have the advantage of not being completely hated by any country, it is impossible to fairly do in any poor country.

The next general one would be Communism, as a government and as a economic system. This can work well in both poor and rich systems, though it can work better in arias where necessary items such as food, water, and fuel are scarce and must be rationed. As a government, it depends on a strong leader and/or leaders, which may be easier to find during formation but difficult to switch, if there is not a mechanism to replace him/her. This form of government can have a tight grip on it's people, meaning they have the advantage in warfare do to controlling what the people see and not needing their approval. It is impossible to place this form of government in a place like America that seems to hate Communism for some reason.

Well I assume that is enough for a start, correct?
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I think they call that a constitutional monarchy. Actually, last I checked England could be considered this and France was at one time this. Basically it lowers the king/queens power to figurehead, while being a republic. Or like the English with the house of lords (Monarchy) with the house of commons (Republic). Or that is what I think they have...


Technically Canada is also a constitutional monarchy as well. We still have ties with Britain, and the Queen is still TECHNICALLY head of the government. I think all Common Wealth nations are this way.
314d1
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Technically Canada is also a constitutional monarchy as well. We still have ties with Britain, and the Queen is still TECHNICALLY head of the government. I think all Common Wealth nations are this way.


Interesting. I was unaware, however upon looking in on the subject a bit more it seems that five of the commonwealth nations are independent monarchies, correct? I will have read more on this.
314d1
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Technically Canada is also a constitutional monarchy as well. We still have ties with Britain, and the Queen is still TECHNICALLY head of the government. I think all Common Wealth nations are this way.


Actually, upon reading further into my article, it seems that their is only sixteen of the commonwealth that have the queen, five monarchies, and something like thirty three republics. Well I will have to read more tomorrow. Sorry for the double post.
MageGrayWolf
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Why do you like it?


It actually seems to take care of the people under it while still allowing amazing freedoms in multiple fields.

I know it's not real, and likely couldn't work in a real world environment.
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to paraphrase churchill, democracy sucks but sucks less then everything else.


I agree completely; the people have to be given the right to control their government but along with that comes the stupidity of the average man.

I would add a few adjustments to America's current system, I would make 4+ political parties mandatory, abolish the electoral college, and increase funding for government and civic classes in public high schools to increase voter knowledge.
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