ForumsWEPRwho do you think was worse hitler stalin or osama

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roflcopter117
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you decide!

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grimml
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Nope, I'll go with Jackie Chan too

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devsaupa
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I understand what he means (not about the honest thing, he was a lying *******). Hitler had the balls to stand up to the German people in economic turmoil AND after he was in jail for a number years. And, i just feel inclined to point this out, Germany had the best military and economy in the world (at the time) under his leadership. You know, until the German defensive line imploded.

partydevil
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hitler wasn't brave. he was insane.

Alpha791
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You can call it bravery but id call it prejudice and insanity. He killed over 20 million people and created a war that killed close to 48 million if I remember correctly. Stalin killed millions also and starved them. Osama I'd say is very close up to Stalin though. (You might not but I do) He didn't kill nearly as many people but he created american terrorism. He will lead to unrest and deaths for decades to come.

devsaupa
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i didn't say that killing Jews and others is bravery, I was talking about his politics. He had the ability to unite Germany when the economy was worse than it is now. Maybe he was insane, but he used it to control an empire. As far as Osama goes, he just led a terrorist ring. And Stalin killed twice as many people as hitler, mostly Russians.

Alpha791
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Stalin didn't create a war killing about 1 percent of the entire worlds population (back in the 1940s). Yes Hitler did unite Germany and bring it out of a depression but he did so by slaughtering people simply because of heir faiths and beliefs. He wasn't brave it has been proven that he had a mental disorder.

devsaupa
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Yea Stalin didn't create a war to kill that many. He did it without a war, in his home country. And you are still hanging on Hitler killing so many people. Slaughter does not help an economy. He created jobs and factories and put people to work which is something our governments haven't figured out how to do yet. Yes, he killed millions. Yes, to many that is completely unforgivable, which it is. But you can't deny what he did to help Germany.

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Yea Stalin didn't create a war to kill that many. He did it without a war, in his home country. And you are still hanging on Hitler killing so many people. Slaughter does not help an economy. He created jobs and factories and put people to work which is something our governments haven't figured out how to do yet. Yes, he killed millions. Yes, to many that is completely unforgivable, which it is. But you can't deny what he did to help Germany.


You said that Stalin killed more than Hitler a few posts back and now you are contradicting yourself. Also Hitler helped Germany by creating WAR factories and creating jobs in positions like propaganda and other things he could use to help him control Germany. As well as Stalin helped end WW2 by fighting against Hitler and Germany.
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Where am I contradicting myself???? I said Stalin didn't need a war to kill millions because he was just fine doing it in his own country. :/ As far as factories are concerned, alot of countries had war factories. He also made car factories and things for everyday life. yes some people did go in propaganda, but not every thing in Germany had to do with war. It was still a place that needed to function where schools, banks, buisnesses, ect. And Stalin signed a treaty with Hitler because he was getting his *** handed to him, months before the war ended. That is why Russia was not involved in peace talks or anything after the war. His anger over his exclusion was one of the many reasons the Cold War started a couple years later.

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And Stalin signed a treaty with Hitler because he was getting his *** handed to him, months before the war ended. That is why Russia was not involved in peace talks or anything after the war. His anger over his exclusion was one of the many reasons the Cold War started a couple years later.


i hope your not talking about WW2, because the Soviets were the ones who attacked Berlin and Soviet troops were advancing on hitler before he committed suicide so i don't think they gave up
Alpha791
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Sorry about the contradicting part. I thought you said Hitler killed more in that response. But Stalin played a decisive role in defeating Hitler. The USSR captured Berlin in 1945 which eventually led to the Allied victory thus preventing the persecution of millions more Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and handicapped. Stalin (or his regime if you would like to say it that way) helped almost as much as it hurt. Stalin also helped transform Russia into a super power wig the Soviet Nuclear Act and Soviet Space Act. (Feel free to correct me if I got he names wrong)

devsaupa
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This was after the treaty was signed. Stalin took advantage of the opening and went after Berlin. His objective was too get more territory for Russia, which the rest of the Allies denied him. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.

devsaupa
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sorry for the double post, but when Stalin had east Berlin under his control it got so bad that Allies had to fly in support and supplies to the Germans. (ex. Berlin Wall) And Stalin still persecuted Jews, gypsies, etc. It just wasn't exclusive. He was anti-religion and pretty much anti-culture. And for some reason no one pays attentions to the tens of millions of people, Jews included, that Stalin murdered. Why are all the 1900 leaders border-line(or over the border) insane? no wonder so many wars broke out in the last century.

Alpha791
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Yeah it makes you wonder how they could have decepted people so well as to get into power.

devsaupa
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When people get desperate they act like idiots. And racism doesn't hurt either. :[

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