ForumsWEPRdo you think hitler was a old time terrorist

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roflcopter117
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this may seem stupid but put down your opinion here

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master565
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Terrorist - A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims
Terrorism - The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Hitler didn't use terror to gain political power, he used his extremely good speaking skills. Killing millions of people isn't necessarily terrorism. Stalin on the other hand might be.

roflcopter117
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yes but terrorists also kill millions for no reason

loloynage2
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If it seems stupid then why did you do it? If you want to debate dictators then go on this thread. Which you create btw.

And yes he was. Case closed. You can't debate this. He used fear/made fear and that's a fact.

loloynage2
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If Hitler is a terrorist then I am a cocker spaniel.

Then you must be the smartest dog alive.
master565
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yes but terrorists also kill millions for no reason


No they don't. Read the definition i posted.
PracticalManiac
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The Cartel are terrorists

iMogwai
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yes but terrorists also kill millions


Then was it terrorism when the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

for no reason


They do have reasons, just very, very bad and twisted ones.

do you think hitler was a old time terrorist


No, he was a ruthless dictator responsible for the deaths of millions, but the word terrorist would be inaccurate.
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I agree with iMogwai, calling him a terrorist is very inaccurate, even though there are similarities.

Armed_Blade
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The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

Violence - Killing Ppl
Intimidation - The Jews Did it!
Political Aim - Germany = Rule the world.

He was a terrorist. Maybe one of superclass proportions, and chances are you feel he isn't a terrorist because he actually held a political office. Yet, the way he got into office was based on corruption, and what he did when he officiated proved his terrorism.

I don't think he's the terrorist we think of today, but in the 40's what other face or name in history struck any kind of meaning to anybody? Hitlers. Nowadays, the word Osama is practically a synonym for terrorist. Pretty much the same, one just got farther in life before he started killing people.

CrimsonVamp
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I've tried looking up the definition on an italian dictionary but it's still very vague. In a way, it may actually apply to Hitler, although it's different from the kind of terrorism we are used to today.

Dragonblaze052
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Intimidation - The Jews Did it!

That isn't intimidation, it is misassociation.

Terrorists scare people into submission. Hitler used charismatic speaches and silently eliminated his opposition. He is far from a terrorist. He tried to keep everybody from knowing what he was doing, a terrorist would say, "Surrender or I will do this to you!"
CrimsonVamp
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Hitler used charismatic speaches and silently eliminated his opposition. He is far from a terrorist. He tried to keep everybody from knowing what he was doing, a terrorist would say, "Surrender or I will do this to you!"


You have a point (You don't hear that so often on the interwebs, eh?).
Armed_Blade
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Terrorists scare people into submission. Hitler used charismatic speaches and silently eliminated his opposition. He is far from a terrorist. He tried to keep everybody from knowing what he was doing, a terrorist would say, "Surrender or I will do this to you!"


Who is "You"?!
The misconception of who you deem a terrorist is based on the one applying the definition, the definition itself is not a constant.

I didn't see a "Surrender or I will do this to you!" in his annexation of Austria, invasion of half of Czechoslovakia, his blitzkreig invasion of Poland, his disregard for the Munich accords or his lack of faith in the NAP with the USSR.

Clearly, to America, his "this" or "threat" was creepy, for we were not attacked. The rest of Europe, though, I'd say, was subjugated to his will, by brute force -- something I would say is applicable to terrorism. It can also be attributed with early Polish city captures. -- You think every city went down fighting? By the time the Germans hit through the western border most cities just said 'okay go ahead and station some men here'.

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Terrorists scare people into submission. Hitler used charismatic speaches and silently eliminated his opposition. He is far from a terrorist. He tried to keep everybody from knowing what he was doing, a terrorist would say, "Surrender or I will do this to you!"


You're confusing this because he's a possible terrorist who held public office. Though he had a support group that loved his ideology, I'm sure followers of Al-Qaeda have leaders that do the same for them.
He gave speeches to his followers, cutting out the moderates in his country. Again, I'm sure Al-Qaeda/other terrorists have done the same thing.
Oh and we sort of knew about the war as it happened.
Also, most people in modern terrorist groups are brainwashed by an ideology of sorts, not really in knowledge of their leader's political goals. In the way that Hitler kept concentration camps a little on the down-low, I think it's safe to assume Osama/other dudes did the same regarding their actual intentions of achieving the ideology they so eloquently are able to validate to a susceptible group or body.
We also have no idea what Al-Qaeda is up to on... heck a year to year basis.


It's not about staying secret. It's about terrorizing people for political gain. Whether it's a massive army or a few terrorists, what you have is terrorism. Even if one group pops two towers and the other two countries.
samy
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He was not.

The group of individuals who dressed as Indians and dumped hundred of pounds of tea into Boston harbor were though.

Armed_Blade
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The group of individuals who dressed as Indians and dumped hundred of pounds of tea into Boston harbor were though.


Based on that logic a shoplifter is a terrorist, too...
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