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zakyman
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Should the school year be extended to include the summer, with mini-breaks in between, considering that we are now 25th among nations surveyed in education.
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1. As with the "Should Israel Exist" thread, give me evidence supporting your opinion
2. If not year long, what should the solution be to raise our ranks?

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Darkroot
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Personally I think that we should be tested after finishing middle school to see if we should even be allowed move past that educational level.


Standardized testing is an excellent way to measure how well someone can perform on standardized tests.

Also S.A.T scores are nearly useless due to the correlation between the scores and gpa is pretty weak.
Riskae
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Also S.A.T scores are nearly useless due to the correlation between the scores and gpa is pretty weak.


That's because they practically hand you a 4.0 on a silver platter these days, I take all Honors and AP classes and I made a 1560 on the PSAT (I haven't taken the real one yet). I know lots of average and below level students who have higher GPA's than me but made much lower PSAT scores.
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Standardized testing is an excellent way to measure how well someone can perform on standardized tests.

Oh. I would never have guessed. lol
That's because they practically hand you a 4.0 on a silver platter these days,

The standards also seem to have gotten lower.
Riskae
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The standards also seem to have gotten lower.


They have, I don't like speaking badly about the south because I am from it but in Georgia we start math a year later than most states, I being in AP classes am not a year behind but some of the questions on the high school graduation test are about reading analog clocks and what shape normal household objects are.

eg What shape is the Refrigerator in the picture above?

In addition to that punishments are far too easy, at my school if they catch you selling drugs you get suspended for 90 days. WTF expulsion is a punishment you know!
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Improved funding would help greatly.


Going to private school, more funding would be excessive for my school which has an extremely high tuition anyways (not to mention people stealing financial aid because they don't feel like paying).

@OP, this would take away the chance for kids to go to camp, and would be excessive. We go to school until we are (around) 18 so going to more school until we are 18 doesn't seem necessary. Anyone who wants to learn more can do so on their time over the summer.
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I think that we are fine as is. I mean, look around. With normal school years plenty of people have gone on to become professionals at their jobs. Also, some of the most influential people in the world didn't even go to school, so sometimes knowledge isn't necessary for the real world

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I'd kill myself. No joke, by the end of the year, every year, I'm about to shoot myself from being burned out. My grades drop, I get edgy, and tend to have ****storms of arguments with parents and peers over stupid ****, usually from just having to deal with the same **** for 9 months going on straight.


I completely relate to this.

We aren't machines, and when the idea is to absorb knowledge straight work ethic straight all year is nearly impossible to keep up for all but the hardest and most diligent learners (*coughnerdscough*).


I have the opposite problem here...school goes FAR too slow, has EXTREMELY redundant work, assigns POINTLESS homework/busy work, and you are graded by how much **** you can produce, not by how much you actually know.

If you pass a class, but fail the final, how does that even make sense? The final is the compilation of all the knowledege that a class contains, if you fail that, how in anyone's right mind could that be considered &quotassing" Sure you got a B, because you turned in all the god **** busy work that pads your grade, but you got a 55% on the final. That doens't make any sense at all. Your grade should be vastly affected by the final, not just 15-20% of the total grade (as is the custom in my school)

So much time is wasted on grading pointless busy work, repeating work and worksheets, and taking forever to progress. What we do in a semester, I did online in around 5 hours for a class. Extending school time won't solve anything, it will just makes kids bash their brains out, what we need is a reform of how we think of school. The point of school is NOT TO GET POINTS OR GRADES, IT IS TO LEARN! Grades are simply a tool to assess that learning.
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