ForumsWEPRDo American citizens have the right to be angry by the way someone wears a servicemens uniform?

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wowzies
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So this question came up when I saw a man In Marine Khaki. I was highly offended when I saw him with out a cover.

Look at the man all the way to the right

Instead of looking like what he should have (as shown in the image) He was wearing the Uniform shirt and pants as if they were reagular every day clothing. His shirt was untucked, he was not wearing regulation uniform belt, instead of service shoes he had black and read sneakers, and instead of a cover he had a black and read ball cap.

So back to the topic
Do American citizens have the right to be angry about the way some one who (in a form) represents our county and how he/she looks?

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Paarfam
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Of course they do. Anyone has the right to be angry at anything at any given time. That's literal in case you didn't get it.

wolf1991
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Do you have the "right"? Well, no. Unless you're a serviceman yourself you don't have a right to be angry with a serviceman wearing his uniform how he wishes to in public.

You might be confused right about now. Allow me to explain.

So, why do you have no right? Well, you're not putting your time and effort to protecting and supporting your country. If that service man wants to wear his shirt with non uniform shoes and he isn't currently in active duty, then he can d*mn well do so. He's the one doing the work for people like you. You have no "right" to be angry with him, because he's the one fighting.

Paarfam
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@wolf1991
Quick Q: was that directed at me or the OP? Even though I completely agree with you, my post was naught but a joke.

wowzies
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@wolf1991
I understand what he does or doesnt do (I have thought of the possibility of him not being in the service but came accross the unifrom some how [got me a bit more mad]) but I feel that its disrespect to the uniform and in return to the country.

And I was wondering about the right because I am not a servicemen yet... But I want to join the Navy and so Thats why I asked.

wowzies
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from posting this in another site a certain word came up and I would like to change it from "do we have a right to be angry" to "Is it reasonable for us to be anrgy?"

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because he's the one fighting.

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Or he just bought the shirt at an army surplus store.

A shirt is a shirt, it doesn't really matter who wears it or how they wear it, unless the clothing is relevant for some reason (ie a police uniform, or a military uniform in an active military zone, not a shopping mart).

I mean, he either is in the armed services, or not.

If he is, then see Wolf's argument.

If not, then he bought the shirt and he can do what he wants with it.
MRWalker82
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Personally I find things like this offensive. The uniform of the military has a lot of meaning to many Americans, service personnel especially, and to wear it inappropriately or if you aren't required to do so detracts from that meaning.

It is, in my opinion, an insult to everyone who has ever worn the uniform in service to their country. However one of the freedoms that servicemen defend is freedom of expression and that includes freedom to dress in whatever way you choose.

So sure, we have a right to be upset by such behavior, but only as much right as the person has to dress the way they wish. That is the 'double edged sword' if you will of freedom.

Nurvana
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I don't think someone should be angry seeing that. He has more than made up for a poor showing of uniform by doing what is required to wear it in the first place.

master565
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It's a pretty dumb question asking "do they have the right to", of cousre they do. The question should they be offended. I have never known anyone in the army so i am not offended the least bit. I can see why someone, who he or his close relative, were in the army would be offended by this.

zakyman
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They have the right to, but they shouldn't. I mean, if you are active duty or a vet, first of all I would thank them, and they can sure do whatever the hell they want because you aren't or haven't risked your life.

MRWalker82
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I don't think someone should be angry seeing that. He has more than made up for a poor showing of uniform by doing what is required to wear it in the first place.


If he HAS earned the right to wear the uniform by serving in the military then I would be doubly offended by the behavior. At least a civilian could claim ignorance of the meaning that the uniform has to servicemen, but someone who served would know that the behavior would be offensive and thus could only be doing it to be deliberately offensive to others.
zakyman
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If we could actually see a picture of the person in question, because if the uniform shirt is a teensy bit untucked then I won't be offended. However, if s/he is wearing it with blatant disrespect for the uniform then I would be mad.

Nurvana
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, but someone who served would know that the behavior would be offensive and thus could only be doing it to be deliberately offensive to others


So this man had to have done it on purpose?
NoNameC68
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So, why do you have no right? Well, you're not putting your time and effort to protecting and supporting your country. If that service man wants to wear his shirt with non uniform shoes and he isn't currently in active duty, then he can d*mn well do so. He's the one doing the work for people like you. You have no "right" to be angry with him, because he's the one fighting.


A right is the choice to do something without the government having the ability to punish you in any way. So yes, you have a right to be angry.

Now, should we be offended? I couldn't tell you. Personally, I wouldn't be offended at all. I'm not in the military and even if I was, I still doubt I would be offended. Uniforms are a powerful symbol, there's no questioning that, but to me, in my own eyes, they aren't. To me, uniforms aren't very important. It's not a matter of logic, it's a matter of personal taste. I don't have a strong taste for uniforms, and they mean very little to me.
Sonatavarius
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So this man had to have done it on purpose?


does a grown woman who is a part of one of the muslim sects who says she has to wear a garb on her face know she's going to catch hell for not wearing that garb in public?...or just not wearing it in the proper fashion?
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